12 YOE & seeking first in-house role. Apps have been mostly ignored with a few interviews. Company is finally showing interest - 3000 employees, small legal team, I’d be the 3rd atty. I asked around this company and haven’t heard great things.

Is it better to get into an in-house role (ANY in-house role) and then try to lateral somewhere else, or just wait for a better opportunity? Worried w my YOE it’ll be hard for me to find the right fit, and that having some in-house experience will help.

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I agree with Attorney 1. If you are definitely looking to go in-house, if the role itself is good (good experience that will set you up for future roles), I’d consider making the jump, even if the company culture isn’t great. I wouldn’t make the jump if the culture is unethical though.

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OP’s got a legit concern. Very few of the lawyers in my legal department were 12 years out when they went in-house. Most of those that did go in later, filled niche roles - including me - so it’s not impossible, but if going in-house is definitely part of the career plan, taking the opportunity to get in-house is something to seriously consider.

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This whole thing is weird to me because it says OP is a partner, and several of the junior partners I worked underneath went in-house after being partner for 1-3 years (aka around OP’s total years of experience). They’re all GCs. I guess partner can mean a lot of things, and some must have very different exit options.

If you are comfortable in your current job I personally would not jump to a job you are not excited about just for the purpose of lateraling. I would reassess your job application package to see if you can better tailor your application materials to in-house jobs, expand the net of jobs you are applying with, meet with some recruiters, etc to try and have more success in your search.

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What would your position be? How transferable would the skills be?

Generalist.

How long have you been looking?

That’s a really short amount of time. If you can get an offer in a couple of months, you’ll likely get other offers fairly easy, too. So you can hold out for a better company.

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