2 years + experience in internal audit in a top 500 being promoted to senior. If going into big4 external audit now, should I go apply experienced staff or a senior? If I apply senior but don’t get it, is it still possible to be offered as an experienced staff?

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I would apply for/referred to senior positions first to see if you get bites. You could also message a recruiter on LinkedIn, they're desperate for people, especially seniors, in audit, so they'd respond. Sounds like you'd be good for a senior role to me tho!

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It is possible, I told my last interviewer I'm willing to take an experienced staff position if they think I'm not the best fit for senior, and got offered experienced staff. But I only did this because my interviewer challenged my experience and directly told me I couldn't be senior. If they don't give me the signal I won't bring it up.

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Just something to consider, depending on your age/the long game. But expectations are much lower of an experienced associate than an “experienced” senior. In the long game, you might be better off going in as an experienced associate, getting the experience and the chance to excel, and then killing it than you would going in as a senior. External audit decently different with a different pace/deadlines/management style than internal audit. Definitely useful experience and you’ll get great exposure to leverage but you’ll probably perform better/get a better reputation as an experienced associate who can take on some senior duties than in the current environment, where if you come in as an experienced senior, you might end up being lead senior or sole senior in a role that you are very likely to struggle in as everyone is short staffed. Just a thought!

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I’d also add here that while firms are desperate for seniors, the crop that have been hired from industry over the last year are struggling, for the most part. It sounds like you are used to a high-paced environment, but working for a firm is just inherently different work than industry. I work with multiple experienced hires that came in at the senior level, and they just don’t know how to play the game of managing client needs/deadlines/expectations. As I see it, that’s the majority of my job, and I do solid work when I get the time. If you feel confident doing that kind of thing, jump right in. If not, take a staff role and observe for a year

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Agree with EY1. Don’t sell yourself short/limit yourself. If your timeline allows, wait to get officially promoted so you can change your LinkedIn title. Maybe add CPA to your name if you have it. Then watch the recruiters come in

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We took a senior directly from industry IA, like D1 said it’s better to come in as an associate if possible. The only downside is the money for a year but it’s worth it

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I wouldn’t try to go in as Senior. You don’t be short selling yourself. You would just be realistic. Go in as an experienced staff. You’ll be better set up for success.

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