275 people die every week to gun violence in the US. Where are all my emails from leadership taking about how “heartbreaking“ last week's other 267 deaths were? What about the week before that? Is it wrong of me to feel upset that some lives are clearly more valued than others? Why do we only feel the need to discuss a miniscule percentage of them and ignore all the rest?

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I was thinking about this basic point this am when I read a post saying that the poster appreciates his or her firm’s acknowledgement of one recent tragedy but was unhappy that the firm had not acknowledged the Atlanta murders. Just a few minutes later and almost certainly coincidentally, my firm’s MP sent out an acknowledgment of the Atlanta events. I understand the impact of the Floyd and Atlanta murders on many people and communities. But I also wonder where the best line would be drawn.

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The idea of relatability is a great point.

I do not know where the line should be drawn, but I can't help feeling frustrated that certain tragedies are attributed greater importance depending on whom they befall.

And I agree, it's disheartening to see that the most Liked comments in discussions such as this tend to be the ones that strive to do little more than offend. In any case, I appreciate the genuine responses though I don't feel we're much closer to answering that extremely difficult question.

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I think in the case the point in focusing on these murders is to highlight the upswing in anti-Asian violence. It’s not saying those other deaths don’t matter, but it is highlighting a concerning trend and this is the latest and most high profile example.

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I would say in many cases they are caused by poverty and lack of upward social mobility which is not something most impoverished people have any control over.
Since you asked for evidence: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

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So you’re saying - we need sweeping gun reform?

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Your post has a position. You are upset that every killing doesn't get the same national news coverage. So you need to explain how that would work.

This smells like All Lives Matter (ie sounds like the same argument people make against using the phrase “Black Lives Matter”)

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Really? Statistically 57% of those homicide victims were black. That would mean around 150 last week if the normal trend continues. Where's their call out?

Were those other killings targeted due to immutable characteristic?

How does acknowledging the victims in Alanta take away from anything else?

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Also, you're not asking questions, you're taking a bad faith position that you don't want to stand behind.

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I guess if we just pretend that there hasn't been an increase in violence against asians then your statement may have some legs.

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275 was an average based on yearly data. Obviously it's going to vary week to week. Maybe the rate will increase this year, maybe not. I don't think we have that data yet.

So, because many bad things happen we shouldn't focus on any?

Got it. Apathy due to your fragility and fear of being left out.

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SA - I absolutely think we should always continue to reduce gun violence across the board.

There is also value in focusing on certain themes that emerge. As you may be aware, hate crimes have been rising precipitously for Asians in western nations since COVID. This has been exacerbated by irresponsible rhetoric at the leadership level.

This has caused a lot of anxiety, fear, and suffering for the Asian community. It’s a dreadful feeling to have a looming sense of being unsafe in public places hanging over you. You’re also constantly worried about your loved ones when they go out, targeted for simply existing.

The mass murder that happened this week further propelled these simmering feelings into high gear. Statistically, it’s a very low probability for something like that to happen to a given person, but as you know, humans aren’t rational (e.g., people were scared to fly years after 911, even though their chances of dying from terrorism were minuscule).

As an Asian American, I’m no stranger to racism. My whole life, I’ve faced racist incidents and have suffered in silence. I’ve been lucky in the sense that I’ve never been physically hurt, but you can imagine having strangers scream “Chink!” on the streets or kids in school pulling their eyes back, speaking gibberish, and asking if you eat dog isn’t exactly fun.

It’s so unfortunate that this incident had to happen to spark a national conversation on the racism towards Asians. For the first time, it felt like people were actually even aware that the scale of racism that existed. I was even surprised to see that many Asian friends went through the same things as me. We had all bought into the model minority myth.

In many Asian cultures, you’re taught to keep your head down and work hard and not be a burden on others. So we never talked about so many of these terrible things that happened that we just accepted as an unchangeable fact of life.

This shooting was tragic, as are all incidents that lead to the unnecessary loss of innocent life. The legacy of those victims is that they sparked a reaction from leadership across the board that I’ve never seen before in my life - a recognition that as an Asian community we exist, we matter, and they support us.

I know that in your viewpoint, these changes may not matter, but it makes a world of difference to me and the rest of the AAPI community. The 267 deaths all happened for different reasons and I hope that in time, there will be more awareness and actions taken for all of them.

I hope you understand that your current framing can be interpreted as dismissive towards the AAPI community and hope you can consider reframing in the future.

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OP, simple question. Should national news cover every murder?

Funny how the Biden administration is overlooking the spike in inner city gun violence yet latches on to the Atlanta shooting as racially motivated.

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I’m not seeing it, can you expand on what exactly you find funny about violence?

We always talk about gun violence, as we should. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t talk about hate crimes.

Just use your brain a lil.

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OP,

Do you show up at cancer fundraisers screaming about how there are other diseases killing people? Or admonishing people for not donating to every single organization trying to cure a disease?

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No and no. Why do you ask?

Because there is a difference between random gun violence and premeditated hate crimes ...

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I think it's hard to call it random when murder victims are overwhelmingly black. That seems more like a pattern than randomness. Why do you consider it random, though?

Because a small percentage of people who vote like you somehow think its valid to hate on Asians because "China Virus".

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op what’s your address? I want to square up

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Mass shootings like the one in Atlanta are always going to get more attention. If all the victims had been white men, the discussion would be different but it would still get more attention than a single individual’s death.

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If all the victims had been white men, providing the shooter was not white, the shooter would be dead and not given the benefit of the doubt that it was “a bad day”.

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Just remember - every single piece of information you consume is filtered and curated. Certain things get highlighted because they will drive ratings and revenue up using fear and outrage.

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What would be your approach to addressing all violence?

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You sound like my clients who don’t want to focus on the problem we’re there to solve but want to bring up everything in their organization that needs fixing

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