5 years in the industry and still an art director. How long did it take you guys to reach each level? Does it matter?

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Depends on if you're at a good agency or not. Shit agencies hand out title promotions like candy. Better agencies make you go above and beyond to earn it. A direct quote from my ECD at DLA: I can't make you senior CW because you haven't won us a Cannes.

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2-3 years per level. Depends on the opportunities provided. It's not something you can put on a roadmap.

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7 years, just made ACD-Writer. 2 junior. 3 mid. 2 senior. Only 2 shops. Depends on a lot of things tho. I could have been a senior for a few more years, but I won a Bronze Cannes Lion and a Radio Mercury and Silver Effie and One Show Pencil all in the same year - so they ponied-up and offered a promotion and I accepted. Basically, the more work you produce, the more awards you'll win, and the faster you'll move up. Also, drink with your bosses so they find out who you are, and like you on a personal level - not just your great work. Helps move you up more than you'd think. Also, agree with 72andSunny1^^, better agencies will make u earn that shit. I had to earn it at an average one. But, I'm better off for it. You will be too. Quote from my boss: "Hard work gets the hardware. Hardware gets you anywhere you want."

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2 years junior, 2 years mid, senior for 1 year

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