50 years of NATO - disappointed that the training wheels weren’t taken off and that Europe can be the big boy it needs to be and take care of itself.

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NATO's purpose was to institute a new world order to prevent a third world war. I'd say it's been pretty successful....

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That was never the point of NATO.

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where does 500k come from?

Most NATO members do not meet the 2% of GDP defense spending target. For better or worse, Western Europe is functionally a US protectorate.

K1: Yes, that doesn’t need to come from military budgets though...

Yep - Trump is right about NATO. Freeloaders need to try contributing or pay the US protection money

They are mandated to and the rest of the world follows their word even if we don’t. Even if their electorate disagrees, such as the UK going to Iraq.

It really doesn’t matter if other countries spend 2% because the only way to NATO was going to stop the overwhelming soviet tank divisions were to use tactical nukes.

When the intermarium nations are defended with more than US/UK assets. Then maybe.

It’s mutual dependence. Europe needs US for some (now lesser) degree of firepower. The US needs Europe to justify a large part of its inflated military industrial complex.

If Europe could hold its own then what’s the point for bases, USAFE, the fifth fleet etc? They could all be mothballed and the Pentagon budget slashed by a fifth. Can’t see anyone too happy about that.

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