A law school friend of mine has two GREAT offers to lateral to either Kirkland and Ellis or Orrick. She’s leaning Orrick. Interested to hear your thoughts?

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One is known for burning out associates and the other is on the forefront of work life balance initiatives in biglaw…Orrick is a no brained unless she is passionate about PE and knows for a fact she wants to do that the rest of her life. Billable credit for vacation time alone is reason enough. Source: I am a KE associate.

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Orrick is my dream firm, from what I hear about it. Kirkland is a nightmare, also from what what I hear about it.

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To weigh in on the other side, Orrick cut associate salaries (and pushed further hour/salary reductions) pretty quickly during COVID and was among the last to raise them back up. Same thing with associate start dates and summer program cuts. The were unconfirmed rumors of stealthings. Most of this was inconsistent with the actions of what I would consider to be their peer firms. K&E, AFAIK, did not do all of this.

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Avoid Orrick at all costs. All the feel good initiatives are total window dressing. Correct re stealth layoffs, pay cuts, scammy ways to calculate bonuses. Very poor business outlook except in the public finance space, where they are well established.

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I previously worked at orrick - can’t speak to every group there but overall my time there was great. Haven’t heard the same about K&E. I think the only better thing about working there is more intense/better clients and deals

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You can take what I’m saying in my posts as about as close to actual confirmation as is legally permitted.

I have only had bad experiences with K&E.

Without knowing more about which practice group your friend would be joining, I’m majorly inclined to say Orrick. I know a good number of folks at K&E and they are miserable.

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