Again... why are covid deniers solely focused on the death rate...

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It’s not that deniers don’t care. They just care about and fear other things more. I’ve been trying to have kind conversations with those people because attacking or insulting them only makes them dig in deeper. Kindness. Seeking to understand them. Gently bringing them into the light. As Ghandi would say, “in a gentle way, you can shake the world.”

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Damn this is super helpful. My dad is one of these “it’s only 1%” people so I’m definitely going to slam this in his face lol

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Using a different example - the 5 year survival rate of women with best cancer that's located only on the breast is 99%... and yet, no one is suggesting your mom/wife/sister/daughter isn't a big deal at all because there's only a 1% chance they die

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If 70,000 men were getting testicular cancer a day and you could protect yourself by wearing a mask and staying home unless necessary everyone would be at home. In that situation would people follow the advice of medical experts or tweets from a former real estate developer / tv personality...

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Deaths are a measure people understand, but I really could not answer the original question: WHY? There is so much more than morbidity/mortality to COVID. There are long term ramifications that may shorten lifespan, permanent disabilities, increased and younger stroke, and more. Mortality/morbidity is now spanning all age groups. Interestingly, Covid has become more contagious, with changes in RNA. It is a smart virus, and we are not smarter, yet.

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The mortality rate of COVID is 0.4%, not 1%.
Still a very large number, and still over a million deaths, just sayin.

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IFR = mortality rate =|= CFR

Why are we assuming that 100% of the population will get infected...?

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Why are we assuming that people die?

Case rates and mortality rates both clearly seem like metrics that are useful in a combined analysis but won’t paint a full picture on their own. It’s crazy to me that a global pandemic got politicized to this degree. We have one side constantly shouting case numbers without providing context on how burdened the local healthcare system is, while the other side points to falling death rates without understanding that the mortality is pretty directly linked to the ability of hospitals to handle the influx.

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How many would have died anyways? The excess deaths are what matter. Especially since this very clearly kills old and sick people at a much higher rate. I also doubt there are many “deniers” on here. Seems like a pretty blatant straw man argument.

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I obviously meant over the same period of time.

This Franklin guy nailed the response perfectly. The OP of that question is a stupid fool.

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There is no data to support the long term lasting effects on survivors. It's all conjecture at this point.

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Curious, did he list a source for any other stats, outside of the 1%? I’ve been wondering what those numbers are so I could share them with the “it’s only 1% people”, but I thought there wasn’t any reliable data yet?

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Wouldn’t that mean that they had to recognize it...

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Simple minds.

I read that the death rate is highly inflated as people dying from other complications not related to covid are being racked in just because the hospital is testing them.

The complications are identified to be related to covid. Like clotting is causing a large number of failures.
Covid is essentially a virus, it causes pneumonia, you die of that - would you argue that’s not a covid related death?

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Not to make this a purely economic argument, but wouldn’t an increase in death rates for those over 60 actually be an actuarial positive? Reduction in social security and medical expenditures, etc.

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