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Haha, what you are is underreacting
What company???? This sounds toxic. If I were you I’d GTFO
Definitely not over reacting, sounds like you’re on a terrible project/ team. How do they respond to no? Some people are the worst and in addition to saying no, you have to really stick to it and not still deliver what they asked
They come to you because you always give in. Block off your calendar, send a message signing out, and turn your notifications off. No one will live or die by this except you if you keep taking on other people’s anxieties.
Wow, we’re not saving lives here. These people need to chill
Chief
Sign off at 4:59pm. Laptop and phone off. Don't check until Monday morning. If needed (although I find ridiculous) put up an OOO starting at like 4pm.
But honestly, you need to be pushing back. People will absolutely take advantage of you. Learn to say no sometimes. Heck, learn to say no almost all of the time if you're staffed properly on hours without the extra asks.
where do you work so i can avoid it?
My husband was in a similar situation for around 3 months working continuously even on weekends. I got fed up and one day while he was on call with his leadership on a thanksgiving weekend I howled from back “are you and your company nuts that you are working nonstop for 3 months including weekends?”. Well his director and partner heard and guess what no more unnecessary weekend work. Moral of the story - put your foot down. They are just using you. And take it from a fellow PwCer - given them the finger and they will hold the hand. 🤷🏻♀️...
A beautiful love story. 🥺
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You are a doormat
Was going to say you’re being unkindly rude but reading OP’s other comments/ responses, thinking maybe they need a rude awakening after all
Chief
Working hard during the week is part of the job. Working Christmas break is not. Let HR and your manager know immediately that you are off from 24th - 1st. Don’t be flexible on this. You just need a break, that’s okay. You can take a break. (If possible take an additional week, burnout is no joke.)
Chief
There are moments to acquiesce, and moments to stand firm. We must choose these moments carefully. Always easier to bend but sometimes we must stand firm. Heading into debilitating burnout in the midst of a holiday, might be one such moment.
Rising Star
You need to learn how to manage up. Search FB on how to. There are other posts about the exact thing
So? Let them fail? As long as your RL is aware they will make that known
6:30 Am - 11 Pm is 16 hours a day. Unless you are paid 2x the salary, I wouldn’t waste a breath after wed evening .
I cannot stress this MORE!
You have to be willing to stand up for yourself and also be willing to make people upset and potentially get rolled off. Establish boundaries. I have been on projects like this and I have been clear to leadership after a few weeks like this that either they need to increasing staffing or I will gladly roll off and they can back fill me with someone else that will do it. I even got to the point of saying I would be out of town or at a wedding almost every weekend. And yes when you set boundaries there will be some level of guilt tripping by the team that you didn’t work late or the weekend but you have to take solace in the fact that you had the balls to set boundaries and they obviously didn’t and that’s on them. You have to be willing to have frank discussions and be willing to be rolled off if they don’t like it but ultimately grow a back bone.
Think of it this way OP- your reputation is currently the pushover. Boundaries and efficient working are reasons why people get promoted. People-pleasing makes others feel like they can dump on you, doesn’t make them respect or promote you.
Chief
Go somewhere that’s not on fire
Just don’t do it. You don’t actually have say yes - do u realize that? After like 7 PM if you just don’t attend meetings, no one will say anything to you. There is the occasional death march project, and maybe that’s where u are. If it’s truly a death march though, then it will all be over soon. Take a break after it’s over.
Thanks everyone for giving me this advice. I’m relatively new to consulting and just wasn’t sure “if it was normal”. Going forward I’m going to stand up for myself more and stop being at everyone’s beck and call. This was a good wake up call and I appreciate the feedback and advice.
READ IT AGAIN! and again, and again!!! ❤️
Toxic af
You may find it helpful to do, not ask. Don’t respond to emails or pings at night or on the weekend. At least make them call you to get your attention.
By the same coin; I never send emails during non work hours. If I draft them because it’s convenient to me, I schedule to send them in the morning. Establish boundaries.
And - if you’re still afraid - just once won’t have any major damage to your career or review. Try not responding and see what happens. Chances are no one will say anything about it at all
@OP- sorry to hear that; it is unsustainable to be on the calls these hours. You manager and director suck big time and are very poor reflection of the firm
Where I would start is outlining for them what are high impact meetings vs nice to join. I guess you don’t lead and fully participate in all so probably 50% could be reduced. This would give you more time to do actual work which would optimize your work / life balance
Happy to chat privately as well, I worked for PwC before, got a very fast promotion trajectory, definitely worked hard but you need to make it sustainable in the long run
Not shocked but OP i’m sorry you’re going through this. I was in a similar boat for 8 months, on a project with hours from 8am to 2am almost daily only charging 40 hrs a week. It was miserable and i almost quit multiple times, but speak up. Talk to your Coach and RL and see if TC can find a replacement for you.
I completely agree, but it’s easier said than done on some teams. I’ve booked my honest time, then the manager called me to change it back to 40 hours. I’ve logged off after 40 hours, and manager called me to ask why I’m not online after 6pm. Couldn’t win either ways, but the engagement has plenty of HR complaints so hopefully something comes of it
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