Any insight on jumping from internal and C-suite comms to external comms? What value to external does an internal person have? What skills to lean into? I also have significant political comms experience outside of my 9-5. I just want that external/PR focus to be my 9-5 job, too!

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

There’s a lot to unpack here.

External will benefit from an internal comms person’s strong writing and project management skills.

You’ll need to strengthen aspects like media relations, digital/social comms, emerging media vehicles, developing comms that translate complex topics more easily for a broader base of audiences (than say internal, employees).

BUT, if you’re really looking for a 9-5, external comms may disappoint you. The nature of the job does require you to be a bit “on” after hours; unlike some internal/exec comms roles.

like

Very helpful. Thanks so much, VP. By 9-5, I meant figuratively, as my normal job. I do some political comms strategy in my off hours and would like to do more of that in my normal job. Honestly, the higher stakes of external is appealing and the reason I'm looking to move on from internal.

Look for companies that have large Marketing & Communications teams so you can move around both areas or be on cross functional projects. We def have these opportunities at Fannie Mae and are hiring.

More Posts

Traveling by plane with our toddlers for the first time. Any recommendations for headphones please?

like

Anyone from Alvarez and Marsal willing to chat? Looking for referral to FDD. Thanks in advance!

like

Anyone able to refer @ Kearney Dubai pls? ~10 yrs strat consulting experience in Western Europe.

like

Any recommendations for good activities to meet ppl when moving to nyc? Just moved here and looking at things like sports groups

like

A proud analyst and an excited summer intern at the end of the internship. Their resumes about to be updated.
Intern: Contributed to a large finance transformation for a global client.
Analyst: Managed resources on a large finance transformation for a global client.

Post Photo
likefunny

To get a 3rd dog or not to get a 3rd dog… ???

like

Hi All,

I recently interviewed for Amazon's Analytics Manager Role - L6 and have 10.5 years experience. What is the fixed and CTC that I can expect for this role?

like

How many people actually lost Diamond, EP, or 1K with the increase to 15k spend?

smart

I'm an Accenture Managing Director considering a move to Deloitte. I've got 15 - 20 yrs possibly left in my career. Any thoughts on Managing Director vs Principal?

like

Considering leaving PA with no job lined up due to mental health problems. After 1.5 years in PA I have come to the realization that this is not the right fit. Am I crazy for leaving with no job lined up? Moved back home and have money saved up. I am more worried about the job hunting process.

like

Have you all looked at 529 plans vs other investment accounts for kids? I'm a little overwhelmed on how to decide the best one to enable good savings for my son's future

like

**Need some Advise**
My ex and I broke up a month ago, but we work in the same office. She completes her first year at the office. Should I wish my ex-my now colleague?

**
This was a mutual break up and I am her first boyfriend. We both were in a living relation.

like

Highly depressed and stressed due to multiple factors both at work and personal life.

Please help!

like

Degenerate logic 💯

Post Photo
likefunnysmart

Anyways to prevent Grey or getting white hair. Just 30 year old and already developing Grey hair :( Or what do you do you to get them back in their natural color.

like

West Monroe Fishes, how is your hierarchy? Analyst - Manager - Sr Manager - Partner? I have been contacted for a Senior Manager role so want to check if it's worth exploring?

like
like

Just accepted McK internship offer. Any tips to secure the full time offer?

like

Any other VC folks want to connect and start sharing deal flow?

like

Additional Posts in PR and Communications

Any LA-based creative intermediaries here?

Do you guys know good recruiters in DC area?

like

Hey guys! I wanted to share #HoldThePRess which is an initiative, inspired by #PullUpForChange and 600 and Rising, holding the PR industry accountable for recruiting and cultivating Black talent at all levels. The website with more info and to sign on in support is holdthe-press.com and you can sign whether you are Black or an ally. Also, we are planning on presenting the asks and demands to agencies in the coming weeks and will be sharing via the website and on IG: @holdthe_press.

likehelpful

What’s going on at Real Chemistry? So many people in leadership seem to be leaving… is that a sign? I’m too junior to be privy to the ins and outs but help a girl out here!

like

I'm looking to return to the U.S. after over a decade living and working in SSA (Marcom for ecommerce startups and tech enabled nonprofits). I've been job hunting as I plan my move in the fall but haven't gotten any serious bites. Does anyone have any pointers to ease the process of transcontinental job hunting?

like

Anyone working in Culture, Change Management and Comms at Korn Ferry? Interviews make it sound amazing -- great clients, fast growth, opps to shape the practice, inspiring leaders, w/l balance... What's your experience?

like

Any creative communication ideas to reach employees that have limited email access?

We seem to do the same communications every year for open enrollment. We do an array of materials mailed to their homes, poster promotions around our campuses (both printed and digital), table tents for our cafe and vinyl decals for bathroom mirrors and office windows. Do you have a method you’ve used that works really well or is creative/innovative? Appreciate your thoughts!

like

My direct report (very new and green) is having a hard time grasping the difference bw corp comms (what she's hired to do) & consumer comms. Any fave corp comms case studies to help?

I’m moving out of PR but looking for someone to fill the role I’m leaving, in an adtech company, based in London. Does anyone know of anyone that’s looking or a bowl/forum for PR recruitment?

like

I recently had to forfeit my portfolio and have to touch with new age publishers. What have you been doing? Do you cold outreach email editors and writers?

like

It looks like Y&R healthcare is looking to expand... what’s it like? The accounts, culture, management, etc.

like

I've been thinking of somewhat transitioning out of pr/comms/social. With 5yrs of experience – what types of jobs/roles do you think we (I) can transition to with our skills?

like

Who's dealt with crisis PR? I have a feeling a client of ours might need it but I don't think they have a budget for a crisis PR agency so it will likely fall on us. Any tips?

like

New parents: how are you managing setting expectations around your schedule and availability? I have a pretty understanding team, but am starting to resent all the extra hours that are often required. Tbh, it was getting a little old even before the baby. Are we all just sucking it up?

likehelpful

Those at big agencies - what do your project/program managers actually do?

like

If anyone in London is after a new in-house agency global comms/marketing role, DM me! I’m leaving and we’re for a replacement. Solid, major network agency, lots happening and lots of scope

like
like

Thoughts on GCI Health for WLB / general culture? Would be coming in as an AS. (Also would love any salary insights you can give! I said around 100 but wondering if there’s more wiggle room there.)

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Send download link to your phone

OR

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Messaging rates may apply

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal