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Anyone else experiencing toxicity in remote startup environments? Greater abuse of time and personal freedom, less encouragement of empathy from leaders, delusions of far greater diversity accomplishments, lack of clarity and communication… How to clear the air and establish structure from afar… or GTFO?

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Startups can be chaotic and can require long hours with little structure. It’s not for everyone for sure. I wouldn’t say it’s intentionally toxic, but when everyone is grinding, the stress can make for a more difficult work environment. It takes extra effort from everyone to maintain a high level of mutual trust and respect.


Exactly, what I experienced over my periods working remote in a previous role, way before the pandemic hit and before founding Tiviety, Inc. But exacerbated more by the pandemic. It’s seems difficult to find empathy where there is no in-person contact. You have only got yourself to psyche yourself up for each job or task. You got yourself to mitigate between yourself which actions are right or wrong on the spur of the Moment. Sanction yourself if need be. One only becomes very dispensable in such an environment. Think its a great topic to bring up.


Let’s just assume everyone is essentially delusional and self serving. At least minimally as necessary to live with their situation; accepting that we can’t really distinguish between busy, abusive, regretful for how they treat you/others, or a mix of all. I’m glad you presented the dichotomy: 1- Clear the air and establish structure. 2- GTFO Let’s assume GTFO is either completely necessary and you just needed to shout it on paper; or, the failure to accomplish acceptable resolution to item 1. That’s that, you have an ex cape hatch. Think over and plan that escape do you are comfortable. Everyone should start any partnership or job with an edit strategy. Sometimes reassuring there is an exit could be sufficient; that might provide an opening to sufficiently push back on things. And polishing back on abuses can sometimes solve them Back to a plan since I was boarderline soppy and insulting. 1a) Clear the air: You’ve indicated the best start and I want to be clear about not mansplaining. You probably know all the ups and downs to this. Let me repeat what I read with the intent of reassuring. Regardless of all else, you’ll want to clear the air; realistically to your own benefit and to the extent practical without feeling further harmed. 1b) establish structure <== That can be tricky but seems like the place to have plan. If this seems helpful so far we can go forward, otherwise no point.


12 years of a Designer Extraordinaire - it’s a consistent Roller Coaster! you have to be grounded in your decision and stay in the arena and accept the breakdowns that come with it! When one door closes another opens- best of luck- get in the arena and fight ⚔️🛡


I feel these things you’re saying, I sort of disagree that it’s an intentional abuse of time. There are some things that I think fall on the remote employee. Separating work from life is really hard especially when the difference could be as slight as “which browser tab am I actively looking at”. It requires some discipline both in how you spend your time in work mode and how you prioritize your personal time as much as your work time. You can’t expect the company to do that. I do think there are some huge issues with the way employers boast and brag about their now remote-first workforce. A huge burden was shifted right off their backs onto the employees. Real estate, office space, food, coffee, Quality of work life things … all of this was quickly shifted to the employee and I don’t think it’s compensated for at all.


I honestly feel like Covid is playing a role here. Some of the emails I get make zero sense and it takes 10 to get clarification. I think everyone's just fried.


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