Anyone else get discouraged when they send stuff off to managers/directors/clients and then they come back with comments like “this was missed or that was missed or why wasn’t this done or this formula is wrong?” Every single time I feel like such a failure. I know it’s supposed to just be a learning/growing opportunity but I feel like they just think I’m so dumb.

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Nope. I see directors missing things later in the process as well when making updates so it’s not just you

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Dont take it personally, these comments will definitely help you become more technical. Ask them questions; during nonbusy season, reach out to discuss comments that you may need more knowledge about. Also, always ask yourself or manager why something is wrong. If you learn the whys, it can only benefit you in the future. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Do your best and continue to learn.

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It’s a good sign. If I trust my senior I will give them the changes back.

If my senior sucks, I do it myself

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Please don’t take it personally. Every single person I have on my teams get comments back, and I have some really great people working for me.

It’s only if you’re getting the same comments back over and over that you need to worry

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Also OP take note that certain people are simply better at articulating the comments. A direct comment would be “You missed the $7 adjustment on Page 40.” It’s direct, to the point, but blunt. Alternatively: “You correctly input the $10 gain from page 39, however I think the gain should really be $3 because there’s a $7 adjustment on Page 40. Not a big deal just look out for those adjustments.”

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Yes I agree there are times when a longer comment is necessary. But at that point, just come and ask. Personally a fan of the hybrid “need to include $7 adjustment. Let discuss if there are questions”. No one writes review comments to hurt anyone’s feelings and they shouldn’t have to explain every little thing either. We have a manager who explicitly explains every review point and apologizes for giving them the review point. This is the nature of our jobs and no one thinks someone is a failure for getting review points. Sometimes we all just need to chill.

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It sounds like you may have some high (and perhaps unfair) expectations of yourself. I wanted to know so badly how I could improve and give my manager better quality work, so when I asked for general feedback after busy season, she did give me great pointers but also ended by saying "I appreciate that you strive for perfection, but don't beat yourself up. You did great." My takeaway was that there is always going to be something to learn or improve on and that we all make mistakes, so don't be too hard on yourself for missing something. Take it as a lesson and apply it forward!

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At least people above you are putting in decent effort to review. Sounds like maybe you should ask them more questions and be clear about their expectations before you dive in next time. I am more frustrated when I have to chase people down above me to review and make sure they actually look at my questions and comments so we can send a decent deliverable to client on time... I am only a S3. There’s only so much I know and can do...

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Thanks everyone, appreciate it. However what I’m most discouraged about is being a new senior. Everyone always says the most detailed and thorough review should come at the senior level. It feels like so much pressure to get everything covered and at the same time not waste too much time diving too deep and killing budgets.

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It’s a balance and you’ll get there! If you are a new senior, give yourself a year to truly settle into the role. The expectation do change quite a bit, but they don’t change all at once. You will get there - you seem to care a lot and that is a good sign. Just don’t burn yourself out over little things like this.

It's not that serious, and you def should not take it personally. Some of my fave managers that I get along great with leave me the longest fattest coaching notes, every single time.

Def just don't take any thing personally, just resolve the comments and move onnn

You should find someone you trust to also review your work prior. Myself and a coworker do this, and it has greatly improved both of our work as we realized we look at things differently.

Do you eat the time? My managers would question why that time is in the code.

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This happened to me to when I first started in PA and it always felt discouraging because I’m not used to making mistakes and I’m guessing most people aren’t used to making mistakes either. But like everyone says it is to help you and you need to change your mindset that making mistakes is ok as long as you learn from them and don’t make the same mistakes over and over again. It’s not a one time pass/fail test score that’s we’re used to in school. PA has tested my confidence over and over again until about year 3 when I felt like I knew what I was doing, but still made some mistakes when dealing with complex issues.

OP: as the others above mentioned, you cannot take this personally as this is the review process. If we expected the staff/senior to get everything right, there would not be a need for review. When I prepare stuff myself, there are always errors or I did not think through and issue to come up with the solution. That is why leveraging down, even small corrections, is important so we can to do our review without being too deep down in the details.

If people were perfect the standards wouldn’t require review

We do almost new things every year; new clients, new rules, new teams, new testing areas, etc. The only dumb thing in your post would be to assume that we would do everything correctly on our first try or especially if you’re stressed out juggling five different clients at once.

That’s why we have multi levels of reviews: seniors, managers and directors and partners- to make sure everything is covered and done correctly. Mistakes are part of the job, it’s normal- but part of the job is also learning as we go so we don’t commit that same mistake as often in the future :).

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