Anyone ever get a promotion with no raise?

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I refused. From a jr. planner (first job) to planner. I told my boss that my bank account doesn’t care if I got a promotion and that it would be much happier with a 10% increase. And guess what? I got that raise because I stood my ground.

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Director 1, you said that if you don’t get a raise with a promotion your marketability is weakened. Quite the opposite. Say you’re a sr. art director and you get promoted to Associate Creative Director but for the same money you are already making. That makes you more valuable to a new agency. Now you can say, hey, I’m an ACD, if you want to hire me, pay me ACD salary. And the agency can get you for less than they would have to pay an ACD who was already getting paid for the title. The worse thing to ever happen to anyone who wants a new job is a high salary and a low title. Those are golden handcuffs

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Have you never heard of WPP?

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Many have tried. They failed. Don’t take the title without the money. Literally refuse it. It’s not even worth it.

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No because a title change without money isn’t a promotion. Agree with the above, or take the title change and start looking for a new job that will pay you average for that level.

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Yes and I used it to get a new job with the same title that paid me 25% more

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^hahahahahaha. Love, a former wpp alum

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Take the title, keep looking elsewhere

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I haven't personally but a friend did. Sounds dumb to me. Why would anyone take (theoretically) more responsibility without compensation?

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Yes at GroupM.

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You can try to negotiate other benefits — more vac, WFH, professional dev $$

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The 2 elements are linked and should never be separated. When a company offers a higher title with no money it is to their advantage only. It looks good for them to have a higher ranking individual on business, which means they can charge clients a higher rate, and retain the profits without rewarding the individual. In essence taking advantage of the employees

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Title bump is nice. Also knowing that you took it and didn't have some outside person be your boss is nice too. That's what i told myself when I took a promotion without a raise....

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Yes...and got a 1.5% raise...but the title was worth it for job hopping

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Yes. The promotion came while pregnant. The raise came after maternity leave.

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You all go in to your boss and ask for a promotion when what you really want is a raise. And then you’re surprised !

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if I am working towards a promotion, I am expecting a raise or I will take the title and parlay it elsewhere. Unless you're crazy overpaid, any employer that offers a promotion without offering a pay adjustment is undercutting your market value. Promotion without corresponding pay bump just invites high quality people to leave.

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Yes! Former G2/geometry global alum too!

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Push for a raise. It's not right or customary to not get a salary bump when getting promoted. Start looking for places that will value you.

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Just happened to a couple friends of mine.

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