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Subject Expert
This is one of the reasons I regularly meet up with friends who are not lawyers. So important to get out of the bubble and keep things in perspective.
Subject Expert
The job is fundamentally social - calls, mentoring, internal politics are all social exercises where good social skills can at least add pleasantness, but the concerns of lawyers are fairly specific and narrow so yes, hard second the need for regular non lawyer socialization. Friends or just strangers. Chat up grocers and cabbies and nurses and waiters, whatever. Stay anchored in other people.
Yes 100% agree with you. Now, I'm more awkward in social settings. Spending 70 hours in an office a week staring at a screen will impact your social skills. It's one of the many negative consequences of biglaw that are little talked about. Honestly, I think it's just cognitive burnout. We work too much.
What is the minimum number of billable hours per year you’d accept for biglaw pay?
Are you me? I’m such a giant loser now and legitimately feel like I don’t know how to socialize anymore.
Enthusiast
I moved from midlaw to biglaw. I definitely lost some social and emotional intelligence along the way.
Enthusiast
A6, this totally depends on your firm/group/team/etc. I think in general you'd bill less in midlaw. I probably averaged about 1500 a year in midlaw.
Coach
Yes, your personality recovers once you leave tho and as others said you can fight this. I tried to consume a lot of (short) good books and befriended artists. That helped a lot.
Subject Expert
This only gets worse as you move along in your career. The best advice is to make an effort to completely turn off your professional brain after you get home or stop working. It is hard but you have to find a boundary. My wife says I was impossible to deal with until I developed my "silly Dad" personality when our kids were born. It really saved me. I am basically more silly dad than lawyer these days but I can turn on lawyer very easily.
Coach
I’ve know several very good lawyers like that, they have more fun and build better rapport with clients than your averaged clenched counsel.
Enthusiast
I would think the opposite ought to be the case (and think it is for me). Are you still working fully remote? Maybe that's related?
I feel like I have become the opposite in order to navigate the internal politiking.
I think I’ve become the opposite! I spend longer around people each day now and there are so many events to go to.
Mentor
My theory is that the hours are so taxing that we lose our ability to interact like normal people.