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would you prefer that they gave you busywork to fill your free time and prevented you from taking PTO when you wanted it? most leaders have been coached to encourage PTO, so the charitable thing to do would be to assume good intentions.
I’m with Slalom here. I’m going to assume nefarious intent after the 3rd time they try to bully you into taking PTO.
Surgeons have a saying they learn in residency: eat when you can, sleep when you can, and don’t F with the pancreas. Seems to apply to consulting as well. When my team is running hot, They often put in long hours. If we are slow, my god please take some time back. Is it helpful for the firm to burn down some of that pto liability? Sure it is. Is it a nefarious plot to force you to sleep 8 hours and see your friends and family? Not so much.
Except when the firm is slow presumably the consultant IS sleeping 8 hours and seeing their family outside the 9-5 or more without having to burn their PTO
I wish I was asked to take PTO. Yes, please!
It's interesting to me that partners have time to care about a single junior team member's vacation time. They all act like they're so strapped for time, is it because they spend it all on stuff like this?
Rising Star
Yes, when they’re not admiring how smart they sound presenting the slides you made them.
Rising Star
I purposely don’t take vacation when things are slow or around the holidays when everyone else is. Why would I?? That seems really shitty for partners to push you to
I would disagree. During Christmas break things are already quiet so not point wasting your leave then. Maybe take a day or two but save your leave when the weather is good and you can actually do something
Chief
You probably have unlimited PTO days, I do not.
What's wlb?
Not unlimited pto but you can go negative on pto balance and no one cares.
Manipulative or it could help your utilization if vacation is subtracted. Depends on your util calc.
D just switched to counting 15 days of PTO towards util, but not even all service lines get that so i doubt it’s common industry wide
I try to make sure my teams take time away from work - especially when it is slow - to balance the need to push longer hours when we’re slammed.
But realistically it has a lot to do with budgeting too. Sometimes you need staff to take time off for profitability
Pro
PTO is earned by the employee and should be used only at the employee’s discretion as it’s akin to asking your employee to spend money on something they don’t want. Sure there are nuanced times when a PTO request might need to be deferred, but firms have 0 right to “force” someone to use their PTO
There are a lot of people who always feel pressure to work and fail to take time off. Partners get reports on people maxing their vacation and want to make sure people feel permission to take the time off.
D4 dunno if it’s “a thing” but it’s my thing 😌. Feel free to take what you like and leave the rest!
Chief
No. Quite the opposite.
It would help your utilization and hence your performance evaluation and raise. It’s a win win situation for you and your firm if you take vacation in lieu of sitting on the bench.
Rising Star
Yea unfortunately utilization will squeeze you anyways.
What do you define as slow? Like being billed on a project that isn’t super busy at the moment? Or being in between projects aka bench? The latter makes sense
PTO is a liability for any firm not doing unlimited. They are prob told to tell you to do this
Its def disingenuous if its the same person saying it over and over. You heard them the first time so repeating it tells me theyre not worried about your well being because if they were theyd respect that you dont want to take your leave right now.
Rising Star
If you’re on the bench you don’t charge to PTO to take vacation you charge to general admin Jesus it’s amateur hour in here. Getting all upset for no reason
Chief
Try rereading the post. It seems like you weren’t paying attention the first time you read it.
Maybe it’s best for the engagement bottom line.
No one can force you . Stand your ground.
Yeah it happens all the time so that their metrics look good in that period.
You should always say sorry you have a family related events 6 months from now and you’ll need to save that pto - otherwise they never listen
Why not lie? Hmmmm.