Anyone here opposed to choosing to get the vaccine and willing to share the logic? I see all sorts of criticisms of what people claim to be the logic of people choosing to not get it, but can’t help but suspect their mostly stawmen.

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I have the vaccine and support it, but from what I’ve heard from those that refuse it are:
- The FDA has not given it full approval for it yet
- They consider it rushed and experimental
- Pharmaceutical companies are not liable for its effects

All other reasons I’ve heard of can be debunked or refuted. The reasons above can be debated but not necessarily refuted.

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My sister is a COVID antivaxxer and her position is that there are a lot of extremely negative side effects that have been swept under the rug because the FDA and big pharma stand to gain a ton from a bunch of people having an American vaccine be effective.

It's ludicrous because you'd think that J&J, Pfizer, and Modena (not to mention any number of conservative politicians supporting anti-vaccine policies) would be psyched to trot out people who experienced bad side effects that would destroy the credibility of one of the other vaccines. But, antivaxx logic isn't bound by reason.

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Nah, they're all in it together. Mutually assured destruction, so they all joined a profiteering cabal.

Bruh, do you even conspiracy?

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Not talking about opposing mandates. Just people that don’t think we should be getting it even on our own volition.

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The only reasonable objection is by those who are legitimately at risk by taking vaccines. However, the actual number of people who are immuno-compromised and fall into this group is far less than those claiming they are. The other group that needs to be ignored are those claiming religious objection. You are free to practice your religion within your home and place of worship. But it should not be be used as a free pass to join society and reap the benefits without being willing to share the responsibility.

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This^. I have a co worker who is extremely allergic to a ton of past vaccines. Hives, rashes, immediate swelling, the need for an epi pen, etc. This was the only person I’ve encountered where I thought, yep probably a good idea to hold off. She still ended up getting it and lived to tell the tale, so I just don’t see the excuses the anti vax crowd keeps pushing. I get this evidence is anecdotal, but we are still dealing with a virus that’s not even 2 years old in humans.

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Other than the fact that it doesnt work?

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The fact that booster shots are required does not mean the vaccine doesn’t work. My definition of “work” is reduce severe symptoms, hospitalizations, and death due to COVID-19. Your definition of “work” is that they prevent transmission, which, neither the FDA nor CDC have ever claimed the vaccine capable of doing.

Incidentally, the vaccine WAS capable of reducing/eliminating transmission of the Alpha variant. Had the Delta variant been around at the time of manufacture, pharmaceutical companies would have increased the dosage - which is what they are now doing - in order to stymie the transmission. But as far as reducing severe symptoms, hospitalizations and death due to COVID, the vaccines “work”.

My mom just told me her contractor said he won’t get vaxxed because “nah, that vaccine is just a political thing!” 🤦‍♀️

100%. She booked him last fall before the vaccine was even available. He was months late starting the project and probably well underway before that conversation. Going forward people should ask!

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