Apparently my company is top heavy. Meaning there’s a lot of “project managers”. Than people who do the analytical client facing work. Once you get all the data you just give it to them and they basically do nothing with it, charge hours until the report is needed. I have people managing me (scientist) who aren’t qualified. They literally can’t do the work by portocol. They get paid more than me to sit on zoom meeting and discuss work I did. I feel underpaid and overworked. Is something wrong?

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I’ve realized this recently about the work I do too. The people leading the accounts don’t understand data, but are the ones presenting all of my analysis to the clients while I’m not even invited to the meetings. They’re essentially just people who schedule meetings and “follow up”. Meanwhile, my level is stretched thin because there are so few of us and the PMs cant actually do any of the work that needs to get done to help out, because they lack those skills. It would make more sense to replace them with people in my role who can do both- analyze and understand data, and present/ explain it to the client. They’re middle men, and aren’t really needed honestly.

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Exactly that’s the thin veiled threat they give… it’s like just do some work and stop relying on me.

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Nah, as a functional project manager for a large scale tech implementation, I can tell you that many technical people do not have the soft skills necessary to put up with client relationships to the caliber I or my senior pms do. I’m not saying this is the case across the board, as I have met a lot of really technically savvy people with great people skills, but thats not what’s common and they are usually more senior. We get paid to be in the hot seat if shit hits the fan to de-escalate client leadership. We also take all the technical jargon and “complex” ideas and distill into layman terms so the client isn’t confused. If you’re saying you are the exception and can excel at both technical and functional work, then great! But I’d wager you haven’t had to conduct a workshop for 30+ people or present a recommendation to a steering committee of c-suite in the limited time you’ve been a consultant. I agree we need more juniors, but a lot goes into getting the right staff mix too. It’s hard to sell a client on freshly minted graduates, too many can cost a fortune, and they require a lot of on the job training, coaching, and mentoring.

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To be fair, most PMs lean heavily on leads for the technical stuff. I rarely see PMs with knowledge of all the technical areas plus the business laws and jargon around those areas unless they have like 30 years of experience.

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You just pointed out something that is objectively wrong. Unfortunately, Welcome to Corporate, this is kind of a prerequisite. You work under idiots until you can become the idiot that others work under.

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You're in a reverse pyramid scheme! #dimaryp

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Work harder and one day you can be a project manager too!

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Maybe.… this is kind of not it I don’t want to lick balls to get a management type position. I like doing that analytical work. I don’t mind doing meetings but that’s so small. It’s not bigger picture kind of work.

How experienced are you ?

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I’m reliable that’s why I’m billing at a high rate. Most are fine with me. I’m staffed to this project still a couple weeks later. My project manager told talent manger I did a good job. What is with all people quick to judge…most of this old thread still goes over your heads.

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People are missing the point… I like doing the work and I like doing a lot of the work. I like to load my plate but if people leading the projects aren’t doing anything or micro managing then sitting around. Or wasting the client budget it’s makes no sense. And to add and answer my post project managers just text at the end of the day for you to send the work. People who dumb it down for the client are more technical people like me. I’m just young and new. I understand alot the the work because I’ve done so much on so many projects. I feel like I do so much work you literally have people (pms included sitting around doing nothing). That’s my issue.

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I think people are missing the point because you’re having a hard time communicating it

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Quit and find something new. If you feel overqualified, youre going to get bored and burnout

I can grind my gears for a long time I don’t really burn out. I guess burnout from inefficiency. I’ve been looking into things to pivot to but I still haven’t found anything yet. Even company wide everyone is squatting on good work. I guess the economy is affecting stuff. I will try to pivot when it looks safe to do so.

It sounds like you would really advance your career by investing your time in learning to better articulate your analysis and learn to relate your findings to business issues.

I want to be a technical pm. At my company those terms are not synonymous because like I’ve said a million times you don’t need to understand the hard work to sit on zoom calls and waste time all day. I’ve even seen on calls most of them just don’t say or add to anything. They just look busy. My company doesn’t care as long as your billing. That’s where problems seep in. I’ve done it to and I don’t really like it I like doing hard analytical work and sure I can talk to clients.

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This is getting bad at my company. We have MDs/SMs/and other tracks that post up and eat hours.

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