Are all these conservatives seriously suggesting that cops routinely stop in progress crimes or that somehow their presence automatically stops?

Because neither of those things are true.

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Having grown up in a crime prone are I can tell you cops don't atop any crimes. Ongoing or not.

They tend to sit around and wait till violent events have calmed down before coming in and making a report.

We saw this in action as well last year on the night a bunch of Trinitario gang bangers in New York killed a an innocent school kid. On the video you could see cop lights, but none of them interveened.

Cops act more as outside enforcers who come in and punish people for committing victimless crimes. Hence why people don't talk to them when they come asking for info.

If you defanged the cops, the only thing that would happen would be that people in those neighborhoods would feel safer, one less gang to worry about.

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I’ll bite - though I am very moderate. I have not converted to either of the two major US religions so don’t bucket me.

What are you referring to? Not following the implication that cops do not routinely stop in progress crimes.

They may not stop in progress 711 robberies very much but I think they regularly stop in progress residential crime (domestic abuse, for example).

But also, even if they don’t stop an in progress crime, it is still important to have police to find the perpetrators of committed crimes after the fact to hold them accountable.

I am sure you agree which is why I’m asking for more clarification. Wondering if I missed a story about Trump saying we have a 0% crime rate or something.

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Interesting.

Do the police make things safer in general though just by being around and people knowing they are watching?

Like what would prevent people from throwing speed limits out the window? If a citizen could theoretically enforce the speed limit, why would I pull over if Karen is honking at me because I’m going 5 mph over the speed limit?

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It’s sort of like the people who say TSA serves no purpose because they’ve never stopped a terrorist at the airport. They act like the fact that TSA has never stopped a terrorist at the airport proves that if you removed TSA from the airport there would be no terrorists on planes.

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Yeah, like that.

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One example of crimes being stopped (besides the obvious active shooter situation) is sex trafficking. My brother in law worked in vice for a bit and a huge part of it is actually getting the women separated from their pimps so that they can figure out if the women are actually willing participants that want to go back or if they are trapped. They then offer protection and resources to those who are being trafficked and then the ones who are “willing” participants are allowed to take a course so they don’t have any charge and the courses are supposed to help them with resources on how to get out if they want to and job paths. But you can’t actually help these women if you can’t separate them from their pimps because they are too afraid to ask for protection for fear of getting killed, so Vice sting opps are the best way.

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How come these are not true OP?

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