Are other accounting firms, specifically other Big 4, as "Woke" as EY?

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Curious to see what 2022 will bring. I suppose they will look for the next woke trend to jump on haha.

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When was an audit firm a source for what is right and what is wrong when they can’t even send a simple confirm to corroborate “billions of cash” held at a sketchy bank? Why should Nike be a model company with great moral compass for equality when they subdue children in sweat shops in the Far East? Whereas we call for boycotts on a sandwich place because the owners are firm believers in their religion or publish a list of companies who supported a certain candidate for shaming. We proudly post and share tweets of statements from CFO’s who supports an idea but apologize that a certain employee posted something that ‘does not embody the organization’s ideals’. You can’t even voice a dissenting opinion on any matters lest you want to risk getting fired or put on a watch list. I have seen people get in trouble because they tried to call out someone for not working the hours and that person reported them for being racist(???). I have been advised to never have a meeting with someone the opposite gender behind closed doors or a third person present. You can’t call for equality while censoring or shaming the opposing ideologies. Let’s stick to audit. It’s great to be an activist and voice your thoughts but let’s not pretend the tens of thousands of people at the firm from different culture, different region, different upbringing, different religion and political affiliation hold the same position as you.

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M1... a truly equal workforce in accounting will literally never happen.. it’s a self selecting field man.. you have to choose to go to school for it... if people from our race or other minority races don’t choose to go to school for it there’s literally nothing the firm can do... And accounting isn’t like being a doctor or a scientist... it’s not flashy or interesting convincing people to come to accounting as a career outta high school isn’t easy...

Probably....I am figuring out my exit opportunities but feels like no matter where I go my employer will throw social justice in my face. Most companies have to get woke or they risk being cancelled. That is today's reality.

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EY3: found the maoist

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"I don't like what my firm is saying because they think that all of my colleagues are just as worthy of a safe world to live in as I am" is an absolutely wild, wild take. This is the bad timeline.

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Such a surface level understanding of what is actually going on here is your main problem. Try and think a little harder and see what you come up with.

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Our woke chairman thinks we should be saving the world from itself. Unfortunately he’s the voice of our firm and I’d say over 90% of the partners disagree with him on these matters. We should stay out of politics and stick to our knitting.

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Lol EY has literally done the bare minimum, but okay yeah sure it’s “so woke”

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And this is where the accusations of "virtue signalling" start to gain a bit of credibility.

Are any firms here not woke? If so, are you hiring?

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Lol why is this so threatening for you?

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2021: where it’s not enough to be not racist... you must be anti-racist Eventually there will be pushback, but for right now I just put my head down and ignore the virtue signaling/social justice propaganda

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Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

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So much complaining going on above if you all don’t like it just find a new employer or ignore it

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Ha, yeah D2, there are sooo many other reasons to bolt, even if one is anti woke.

There was a shooting in a supermarket on Long Island yesterday. At least 3 ppl shot, 1 dead. The gunman is black. The media has been silent. As has Tim Ryan and the other wokers in leadership 🤔....

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SM 1 - and there would have been riots and destruction up the ying yang. KPMG 2 - don’t cha know?....everything is the whites fault.

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Is there any statistic to prove white people get more offended about people not caring about these woke emails more than actual minorities?

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So now you know you’re not far off? You really do fulfill the entitlement culture. I used woke because it’s the quickest way to summarize the pledge or emails saying they care about minorities. How exactly have these made the world a better place? I’ve voted Democratic twice so I don’t see how I’m on the right. This has absolutely nothing to do with changing demographics either. It’s like you’re trying to misinterpret things to spout off

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Take a read of our chairman’s published works over the last year; you’ll see EY isn’t the only one....unfortunately 🙄

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# belikebo

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Let’s all hope that EY will take all the PBB’s this year and donate them to social justice since that went over so well last year

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idk how woke EY is. Step 1 to social equality is economic equality, until the firm understands that and starts distributing more profits to their employees, idk how “woke” and company really is. Everyone is for social equality to the extent that they do not have to sacrifice their own wealth to make a change.

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It’s all just a bit of PR and the like. I don’t know why people make such a fuss about it. Even if you disagree with this stuff, it basically has no bearing on your job.

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I’m fine with the pledge, I completely agree with what’s said in it and I will have no issues signing it myself... however.. forcing others who I know won’t live up to it to sign and be a part of the pledge is my issue...

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Have all 4 firms instituted mandatory anti-racist training?

This makes me wonder, what is the least “woke” accounting firm?

Does my firm’s “Fake Woke” count?

I da know about fake.....Timmy seems pretty woke to me. He still hasn’t commented on the shooting on Long Island. Might it be because the murdered is a POC and the police were flawless in their successful pursuit?

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