Are there any valid reasons why counsels and partners find it okay to raise their voices at associates? I’m on a deal now and both the counsel and partner repeatedly raise their voice at me on direct calls and even teams calls. I feel like I’ve been killing myself to close this deal and have done about 99% of the work, so the added treatment makes it hell.

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A voice should never be raised. I’m sorry you have to deal with that.

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Absolutely not. Yelling is unacceptable in a professional environment no matter how far up the firm is in the Vault or Am100 Law rankings. That being said - my view on this is maybe why I’m a counsel instead of a partner.

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My first workplace was really toxic and every interaction was yelling. At the next workplace things didn't turn out well but nobody ever yelled at me. I was off put by it but yelling on a regular basis is a bad sign

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I have said before that I am not hard of hearing so there is no need to raise your voice at me

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No one should be yelling at you.

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No, this is never valid. There’s never a reason to raise your voice at a colleague.

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Is it raising their voice or yelling? Cuz there is a big difference.

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Hmm. So voice raising to me can be something like people talking over each other and can be cultural and a sign of engagement. Other times people know where you’re going and talk over you to get to the point cuz of the how the billable hour screws up our sense of time. If the voice raising is just people being loud, then I’d be fine with it.

But if it’s angry then I’d put it in the category of yelling, and that would be unacceptable to me. If you’re ears are ringing, absent them talking while having a top down on their convertible and going through a tunnel, that’s absurd.

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