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As a male supervisor, should I refer to my two female paralegals as “hey guys” or “hey ladies”? English is not my first language and woke is really making it difficult for me.

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Both aren't great. Although most people treat "guys" as gender neutral in casual speech, it can still bother some folks to refer to women as "guys." And "ladies" is a bit of a weird term that can come off as overly paternalistic and condescending.

If I'm referring to a group of people I'm working with, especially over email, I just say "Hey team" or just "Team." "Hey Folks" also works well and is gender neutral while not awkward and distant like saying "Hey people."

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SA1 thank you for saying what most people are too afraid to admit

I’m a man, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would get nauseous saying hey ladies (unless they were good friends and I was doing it in like a flamboyant, joking way). But never at work, only with friends. Hey guys is probably fine, but delivery matters. If you say it all the time no matter the audience, then should be ok because it usually isn’t gendered. If it’s a real concern, just say hey or hey all, but I think the fact your asking the question means you probably don’t come off disrespectfully regardless

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Not sure why you (or anyone) would be “nauseous” because you referred to females as “ladies.” I am a female and I think being called a “lady” is very nice— I also like being “gendered” - it’s great being a female and I see no reason to negate the experience to non-gendered, neuter, or some other bland appellation. Oh, and yes, I like males who identify as such and also as “gentlemen.”

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As a woman (and NJ/NYC native) “hi guys” is always welcomed and maybe a bit better than “hi ladies”

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I usually go with “hi guys” but sometimes I’ll just say “ladies.” I feel like If you remove “hey” before “ladies” it doesn’t sound as creepy. Or maybe I’m just really awkward.

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“Howdy y’all” is gender neutral and hilarious

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We’ve been unironically using “howdy y’all” down south for days

I don’t know why you just can’t say “hey” or “good morning/afternoon/evening” or “hi” or “hola” “shalom” “aloha” literally any variation of “hello”

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Dang it now I want tamales!

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“Hey guys” - totally normal and fine
“Hey everyone” - a bit too formal
“Hey team” - if this is in person and casual, you sound like a loser
“Hey y’all” - white people without a southern accent who say this make me vomit
“Hey folks” - you sound like a carnival barker
Hi “ladies” - just plain creepy
“Hey you two” - for some reason, this might be the creepiest of all

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I’m a longtime transplant to the south from the northeast, and I still can’t say “y’all” without feeling like a poser.

I typically go with "Hi Team" and it does the job just fine. Also, "woke" is not the terminology you're looking for here.

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A4 words matter and we can't just make up what they mean. "woke" is not what this is about

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I’m a woman and I say “hey guys” all the time - to groups of women, groups of men, and groups of men and women. It’s very gender neutral in my opinion. I also wouldn’t be offended by someone saying “hey/hi ladies,” as long as they don’t have a condescending, school teacher tone, or flirty tone.

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I think “you guys” is often gender-neutral in the northeastern US. Might be seen differently elsewhere though. Honestly, if you think a term will make people uncomfortable, come up with something that flows like “would both of you take a look at this” or “I need all of you to consult.” This is not that hard.

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Hit em up with “sup fam.” This will foster a work environment that “treats everyone like family.”

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At my old firm, the partner once said we were all family and it was awkward. One we weren’t very close and two my family wouldn’t load me up with work and responsiveness expectations that didn’t allow me to see them.

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Use their first names. Really shows a huge amount of respect and will make them know they’re important.

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This is awkward when addressing more than two people. “Hey Jenny, Karen, Lisa, Melissa…”

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In the corporate world a lot of my coastal colleagues will use words like y’all and sound absolutely psychotic

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Born and raised in a rural part of CA, now not in a rural part of CA and still use yall all the time. Some people do look at me like I'm nuts when I say it... So valid point

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“Greetings females!”

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Ahw Sup mah bitches (said with passion and enthusiasm)

Just use “folks”!

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One of my partners always says “hey dude” to me even though I’m a woman.

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A20 “Bruh” is only used for inexplicable typos.

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My attorney says “hi friend” to everyone.

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I’m not your guy, friend!

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Given them a yous

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Yutes

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And this is where y’all comes in handy

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My judge always corrected someone if someone said something like “good morning guys” by saying “we are not all guys here”

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Just say hi everyone and avoid this whole thing. I’m already tired by the comments

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Doesn’t work well for smaller groups.

You can never go wrong with this.

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"What is up, homeslices?"

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My fav - I like being someone’s homeslice

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