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As a Staff 1 I can’t stand when the Staff 2 tries to Senior me. You have seniority over me, I get it, but at the end of the day we’re both just Staffs. Chill out

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Staff 2 at EY are supposed to be acting seniors since they get promoted the following year usually.

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As a senior I really like when my staff 2 acts like a senior because that’s one less person I have to babysit. Maybe the staff 2 is just doing what is expected of them

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OP, you won’t react well to this, but suck it up and deal with it. They are a higher rank than you are and that makes you a subordinate. They WILL be your senior the next year so getting used to their behavior now can only help you. Strict rank title and hierarchy aside, you should learn to appreciate it when anyone, higher or lower in rank than you, recognizes a skill gap and takes the time to either teach you or correct your mistakes. I have often times found myself having to “senior” people who outrank me by several titles simply because I had lots of experience in a specific area and they were new to it.

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Staff 2 can actually functionally perform to a certain quality. All Staff 1 are fairly useless until they get 6 months in.

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I like the staff 2s: they keep the managers off my back

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Im a staff 2 and hear rumors about crazy staff2 or seniors thinking their tiny amount of power is like a papal dispensation. I dont experience that at all in my group, but if someome told me "im the one who says when you go home" no matter what their level, i would be out the door so fast thered be burn marks on the floor.

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This is not a coaching situation, this is a “I’ll tell you when you can go home” or “I’ll let you know if you have to be online this weekend” situation

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Thanks, “suck it up” is extremely insightful

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The comments you mentioned they are making can be awkward, but if they are being asked to manage the work then they need the team there. There are times when you have to be explicit so people know we need to get this done which may mean a late night. They may just have to learn how to communicate these things better. EY4 is right and so are others - they are the acting senior now and have responsibilities. You’ll be in the same spot next year when you’re looking at senior promo. I can’t tell you how hard it is to be looking at promo and someone is a step behind you and making your life hell because of the “we are both *insert rank here*”. I’ve been in this same spot with someone and it can be hell. Be supportive of this person and I’m sure they’ll pull you up next year when you need it. And if they don’t, then fuck ‘em. You had the better attitude.

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Op, I feel your pain. . Like others said, Staff 2 are good resources for questions and assistance. But Unless a staff 2 is designated as “in charge” of the engagement or a work steam then they generally should not be dictating work schedule to other staff. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do either. You can’t complain to sr or Mgr without seeming like a whiner. If you push back you could be perceived as antagonistic or “not a team player”. You can attempt to outshine him/her. Work better, longer, harder so that the perception is you are better than the sr 2. Then you’ll be in a better position to push back or simply not listen

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Doesn't sound like you have a bright future in this industry

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I can relate with your situation to an extent. I was constantly belittled (and constantly lectured in a disrespectful matter) by a staff 2 during my first year. I thought it was just normal firm behaviour. Little did I know, this staff 2 had a bad first impression as a staff 1 (screwed up on many engagements and got blacklisted from ever working on certain engagements) and was trying to show “leadership” as a way to redeem and prove himself that he is ready for senior. In the end he couldn’t redeem himself and was later fired. Moral of the story is that “schooling” can be a good thing if you’re treated respectfully / as an equal (this is what the higher ups look for when you’re up for senior promotion).

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There are multiple seniors on the job, meaning this individual’s attitude is not necessary. And I think a lot of you are taking this the wrong way, there are Staff 2’s I work with and respect, but this specific individual is on a power trip because they know they are about to be promoted. Their attitude is completely unnecessary and frankly is detrimental to the team’s chemistry

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OP I’m an A2 and A1s have no problem doing a task I ask them to do. Our team doesn’t have a senior though so the A1s kinda see me as a senior anyway. At the end of the day, it’s a a respect thing. You gotta give respect to get respect. I always make myself available to answer their questions. And I always tell them that hey such and such manager would like you to do this. There is no need for that person to power trip like that. They’re just fostering an environment where nobody will want to work with them when they become a senior.

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Not for long....next year they are a senior and you are still a staff. Check your attitude

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I get where OP is coming from. Happens with new managers as well

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I see OP’s point and feel OP’s pain. I’m a staff 2 now and have been told that the director on my engagement has expressed to others in the office that this is my time to display leadership and to show that I can teach others (including staff 1s). In teaching anyone really, I take a peer-to-peer mentality, keep the conversation light while impressing upon them the critical points. I make myself available even if that means I stay an hour later that night to finish up my work. I will say as a staff1 though, I took no shit off of anyone. There’s this teeny tiny fine line and if you can identify where it lies - you can stand up for yourself and let that staff 2 know how this relationship is going to work without causing a huge commotion. I know for a fact that I’m more respected for it. The only caveat to that approach is you better perform to back up that attitude you have to hand out sometimes. It’s standing up for yourself without disrespecting the other person. A skill I think is invaluable in a place like Big 4.

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Lol everyone in PA on a power trip, always. You guys are awful

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Are they assigned as detail review over the area you are preparing?

Is there a senior on the job? If not then this isn’t unreasonable. The senior or manager on the job generally dictates the working hours. There’s definitely a right and wrong way to go about it, but staff 2s really should step up into that senior role if they can

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