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As consultants, does the fact that Pete Buttigieg worked at McKinsey make you less likely or more likely to vote for him? (All else equal and assuming you vote)

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Moar. I like my Presidents slick and my PPTs thicc.

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Thx for a good laugh 😂

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More. He's smart and articulate and it shows. He's the only one that has a firm grasp of both the tectonic geopolitical and technological changes that are happening now. McKinsey has run into ethical issues that should be taken seriously (I side with the NYT for stuff they've actually done investigative reporting on) but none of Buttigieg's actual work should be controversial. The "you worked for a company that was fixing bread prices" spiel from the NYT was bs and showed how little that person in particular knew about consulting. Buttigieg's McK work was either pretty vanilla or actually slightly admirable, like his time working with Iraqi businesses and the DoD.

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As a journalist turned MBA, I respect both sides of the coin. Mayor Pete is just as sharp with his retorts and recall as Pistol Pete was with the basketball. But here's the issue: what often sounds good in the boardroom doesn't quite pass the mustard test in many living rooms. And that's where you get the term "Mayo Pete," people don't view him as authentic. His consulting work is no more disqualifying than Trump, Obama, Bush x2, Clinton or Reagan's previous experience.

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He lost my vote after he said “he’s more of a Microsoft word guy”

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Yo he is a politician what do you mean he comes off as fake?

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Slightly more likely, but still won’t vote for him. So annoying how women candidates have to be super accomplished / demonstrate superhero feats of competence (95th percentile in pushing bills out of committee, pushed most # of bipartisan bills thru, Co sponsored the most number of bills, etc etc) but any random guy (like I don’t know, someone who has 3 YoE in consulting) thinks they’re qualified to run because you know, they have judgement / they’re smart / have potential. Hello - That’s table stakes to be a senator (most were attorneys or prosecutors prior to serving).

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Mck1 ditto

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More - we desperately need the person in that office to be able to frame problems, understand data and its implications, and form persuasive fact based arguments that drive action. He is a clear positive outlier on those dimensions relative to the field, and his time at McK likely contributed to that.

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The McK posse strikes! Not sure what to do M2. Your approval means so much to me.

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I wonder if he will be obsessively checking his Air Force 1 miles and upgrade lists.

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I wonder if you can transfer airfoce 1 miles

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Less. I can’t seem to get through any of his fluff pieces, and I’m having a hard time hearing actual actionable items. He’s very articulate, I’ll give him that tho.

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Totally agree on the self-hate aspect

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More. We need brains in the White House. I also value his character and integrity. Sanders' argument that he gets influenced by millionaires is just plain stupid. Are we really saying he will do what millionaires want because they gave him $2,800 bucks to spend on his campaign ??? Let's vote for someone with policies that will actually pass Congress.

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Well campaign finance is a bit more complicated than millionaires gave him $2800... SuperPACs and fundraiser events could provide a lot of stimulus to any presidential campaign.

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It depends..

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Dayuuummm! P1 just got plz fix'd by K1

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Is Pete electable though? Are there still too many bigots in America?

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Maybe not people that are necessarily bigots but people that just can’t understand homosexuality due to their faith and/or ignorance, which as we know there are plenty of. I can’t see him winning regardless of how good he is.

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Objectively speaking, doesn't change my stance on voting for him in the slightest. I don't care if a candidate is a (former) consultant, a coder, a farmer, a billionaire, a crochety old coot, or anything else. I only care about a candidate's platform, their plan to execute said platform, and their communicated grasp on reality.

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But don’t you think (1) their stated platform and (2) their grasp on reality and (3) things they will actually fight for when all of these platforms become a negotiation (as they all do) is related to their background and experiences? I used to vote based on platform too but how many of them even try to execute more than like 1-2 items on that platform.

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More. He was extremely well groomed and calculated in his delivery compared to the others. He was attacking ideas rather than other candidates.

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Unfortunately, apparently common folk prefer drama/reality TV over well groomed and calculated.

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Less, consultants are douchebags

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Well, he destroyed the middle class.

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P1 is having a laugh

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More given MCK, already vetted this dude, I’ll trust his decision making skills more than Bernie or bloomy

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He was there as an associate. He took notes. Who cares

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Less. Pete‘s a logical evolution of the High School Debate Captain trope — saying all the right things and checking all the right boxes to present as the Perfect Well-Rounded Candidate™️. (I’m sure it suited him well at McK.) He just doesn’t have enough real world or political experience. I also thought his attacks of the other (more qualified) candidates were unproductive and in poor taste. Also more of a Microsoft Word guy?? 😷

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Consultants are great at analyzing or advising. But politics is about implementation. Not something MBB consultants are very good at.

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