Been a PM for 6 years and I feel jaded about the role. I don’t think I add value besides being a product sales person for customers and talking “business speak”. I have delivered features that didn’t require PM work. None of the features I tried to push will be built. I now build what engineering and leaders want. Also we are very short staffed and other than critical features I don’t envision new work. Thoughts?

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Remind them of your role as a PO/PM. It would help if you created your user stories from problems your stakeholders arise with you. The engineers should follow your lead to build what the business needs. If this isn’t happening, then I would speak with the manager and tell them, especially if what’s being built isn’t bringing business value.

If nothing changes, find a new company.


OP, without revealing too much information but I and a couple of colleagues agree that the it is career suicide to be a Product Manager for internal products at Amazon.
You will rarely do Product Management. Most of your time will be spent in Project Management and some in Product Marketing. Get out as soon as you can. Or transfer to a product with external users where you will actually be spending time with your users, customers, data analysis and using that to recommend and socialise your product strategy and roadmap. Baby sitting engineers , reporting status updates, writing tickets for them....please get out


I’m a Product Manager as well and in a similar situation. I’ve been in that same boat for about 3 years. Irony being that my work should be foundational to other work efforts that are being prioritized while mine was deprioritized and potentially removed. 🤷‍♂️

And here I’ve considered what it would be like to move over to Amazon. LOL What’s your WLB like? My minimum is about 60hr per week with gusts up to 70-80hrs/wk. Wouldn’t be as bad if I could remove the +45hrs a month in non-essential meetings.

How much if it is the role and how much of it is the company?

Product driven by engineering (say, even the SDM) or by leadership is indeed common on many Amazon teams, but you’ll find this happens everywhere that a team lacks a clear product vision.

It sounds as if you’re not being given the chance to own a unique vision and strategy for your product. Alternatively, you’ve never sought that opportunity out. I encourage you to think about whether it might make sense to explore a different team where you have the chance to craft a vision. Perhaps working with your manager to identify whether this is something you can achieve in your current role will be a good idea. If not, there are plenty of teams and organizations outside of Amazon that might be interested in giving you your shot.

Lol Director...sounds like you are a part of such an organization. I think hiring PMs in such an org is doing everyone a dis-srrvice. If you need project managers then just hire a project manager. I see PMs wasting their time not learning about the customer ( which hinders their ability to form a vision , strategy ) ...instead they are overloaded with daily tactical do you even find time to contact a customer, ask thoughtful questions and the take the time to debrief and really think about the conversation. When you stop overloading PMs with tactical daily task, you will free them up to think big. Untile then, please recognize that you maybe destroying careers. The lesser experienced folks may not even realize it since "So fancy...PM at FAANG"

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