Best mid tier PA firm to work at if you want to stay in PA, but not sure you like the Big 4?

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In my market:

GT: big fat NO
BDO: no
RSM: ok
Dixon Hughes: yes
Crowe: yes
Aprio: yes
CB: possibly

The above is based on personal experience or my close network’s experience. Tax only and I don’t have experience on the other service lines.

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I can second GT as a big fat NO 😂

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Ha I found you! Sneaking kpmg in and I like it

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Do you want each of us to list firms #5-15 or do you want to do a Google search? This is also highly dependent on location, speciality, etc.

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No need to bring this energy to this forum SA1. Answer with kindness or scroll on.

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Totally confused on your comment “no set expectations for charge hours.” We all have very clear charge hour goals broken down by pay period.

From your experience I wonder if you talked to anyone about your confusion other than the senior? It’s a big team and each engagement will have a partner and likely and senior manager and/or manager. Even at a great firm, there’s a few people that may be having a rough time. Also, seniors are just developing their management skills. Perhaps you were working with one who was early in that process.

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Crowe is trying to be exactly like Big 4 . . . They don’t care about their employees. Plus, you were looking for diverse industry experience. Crowe forces people to specialize.

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I went from KPMG to RSM and am much happier at RSM.

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Thank you! That’s very nice of you. I’ll keep it in mind.

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What firm did you move to for a 40% raise?

Depends on what you like about PA, location and service line. But, my vote goes to RSM. We’re a lot like B4, but....Not.

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I don’t mind focusing on a specific industry. I think I’ve just figured out that I don’t like IM. Unfortunately that is the majority of what the tax clients in my office are, so I don’t have much opportunity to experience working on clients in other industries.

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There is 0 day to day difference other than non B4 = possibility of no PCAOB and bouncing between several clients throughout the year.

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I came to Crowe after big four. I think it’s better but don’t think it’s making me want to stay in public that much longer. We work on a bunch of small low budget clients and staffing in constantly an issue. Hours and culture is better though

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Damn I didn’t get a signing bonus to join GT as a senior and you got a signing bonus for coming over as a staff....

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Hard to say. Depends on what Line of Business you're in, what teams/clients you're on, and which industry or focus you take. A lot factors play into a great or terrible experience in PA. I guess some firms will generally have a better culture than others but that won't matter if you're on a high stressed team on a client with tight deadlines and rude people.

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I love it here at RB. 7 offices and growing. Great people and culture.

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