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I’m a really conflicted ABC that is all for activism, BLM, political correctness, etc, but i wish people took the time to educate themselves about other cultures before assuming the worst and demanding entire languages/religions/cultures change to fit the America’s version of political correctness. would like to hear what everyone thinks, bc i genuinely don’t know.

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I think this is not that people are being too sensitive, rather just Americans being culturally insensitive. People are so used to everything going their way and the US being the center of the world, that they are unable to be perceptive of other cultures/languages that works differently than the US. So much so that they feel the need to police a word in another language that SOUNDS like an English word. US centrism at its finest.

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This is literally a Russell Peters sketch lol.

Look I get it, given how it sounds, I try to avoid saying it, but this specific example is too much. It is misguided, will further draw a line between minorities, and honestly is culturally insensitive.

This was a lecture on communication and he was talking about filler words, he has experience in China and that IS the filler word in Chinese. In the future, these business leaders will likely work with mandarin speakers, and being aware of this could have been helpful.

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Lol we had to change the word master/slave nodes to main/sub. I think we are overdoing it.

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Hmm but what do you lose from that change? Disagree that this one is going too far because it seems (from an outsider point of view) like the result is just the inconvenience of learning new words. But maybe I’m wrong?

I feel like this example falls in the “open the kimono” & “Chinese wall” category of language that’s racialized for no good reason, vs the link here where people are being culturally insensitive to be racially sensitive.

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Honestly? Not really finding evidence that the prof in question was actually suspended. The only people reporting on the suspension are the right wing sites such as reason and national review.

Language Log has a good write up and a video:

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=48302

I agree it’s a stupid reason to take a prof out. It’s the most common filler word in Chinese. But something else just doesn’t make sense about this story.

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The language log blog has the email text saying someone else is taking over teaching —- but nothing about a suspension.

I went to USC, the business school is really diverse. At the same time though, that example is completely unnecessary for that class. Obviously we all understand what it really means, but there are also a lot of black people that don’t. I think anyone with common sense would realize just to not say it (not only because it may offend someone, but also because of the climate rn). I understand the argument that others should learn what it really means, but you can’t control others and why can’t yourself be an understanding person?

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Yeah that example probably was unnecessary for class, seeing as they weren’t specifically talking about Chinese and could have used “errr” which seems to be a common filler word for some European countries. Hmmm I guess what is getting me is that Americans (myself included tbh) expect people from other countries to be politically correct, even though it’s not their culture or even language and the terms are always changing, but do not reciprocate that same effort of understanding to other cultures or languages outside of the US

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So are they going to stop rappers from using the N word in their songs? Or are they allowed to use it... nega or naegah is not even the same meaning or word as n*gger. But rappers say it most of the time in their songs/raps.

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FAX!!!!! but also i don’t understand why black people use it with their friends (as a good word) but get mad when other people use it with the same intention. bc it’s suddenly offensive??? i really don’t get it

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Wow ppl are way to sensitive that honestly a lot of ppl and institutions are starting to sound super dumb and quick to cancel anyone...

agreed with EY1. I do agree in this instance that it’s culturally insensitive to view what the prof said as anything more than just filler words, but I also have to wonder why that example was so necessary? as a Communications prof, I would expect him to be able to consider his audience and the current social climate. There were so many alternatives he could have chosen (even such as slightly altering the pronunciation of 那个 to be more proper [nà ge] and less slurred/similar to the n-word)

Literally no one pronounces it ‘na ge’ (vs ‘nei ge’) though; it sounds very odd. Granted, this professor is white and doesn’t seem to have strong ties with Greater China which is why it might have seemed a bit off in that context. But I for one will not self censor literally the most common word in my first language - our culture is already being diminished, devalued and misunderstood; what more does the western society want?

And I say this as a very liberal and pro PC culture person. Everyone should of course be sensitive, but this is a different context.

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