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Biggest struggle for mgrs at mid tier firms is not the clients, it's the firm's brand rep. Big 4 can hire as many as they hemorrhage due to long hours. The likes of Crowe, CSA, Moss, etc. have to....

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....balance the high demands of clients while ensuring staff & seniors are not overworked to the brink of quitting. Mid tier firms simply can't deal will attrition efficiently. Might not be a bad thing, but it's a unique challenge.

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Agree 100%. Staffing jobs is the bane of my existence. We struggle to find 1-2 people for 3 team jobs on the reg. FML

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Someone said recently that our office plans for approximately 20% turnover at the staff & senior levels annually. I find that atrocious. There is something wrong with the system. That can NOT be the best way to run this ship. If you make it better, you can make more $$$

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New staff are usually really shitty. And the seniors are already above capacity. I usually just end up doing the shit myself

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The reality is that the mid tier firms are not building for legacy. Rather, they're building for "hit and quit it" infusions of cash into their bottom line.

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