Can anyone speak to countering an offer to lateral? Trying to figure out if countering an offer is okay or if that would start off the relationship on the wrong foot.

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My current firm low balled me on their initial offer when I was lateraling in. I asked if they could move on salary and bonus and sure enough they did. They understand that it's ultimately business conversation at the end of the day. If they don't or if they get pissy about it, I would question whether that's somewhere I'd want to work.

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I counter offered. I told them what it would take to get me over the line and they gave it to me.

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Senior associate. Happy to share in DMs

I countered and had offer pulled. So it does happen occasionally, but it seems rare.

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That said, if the firm isn’t lockstep (tough to negotiate with lockstep firms) then a lack of willingness to negotiate may be a red flag. So it can be nice to know that up front. I would come in with market data and a business case to support your ask. But even that didn’t help in my scenario.

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Your job is to negotiate-asking for what you won’t will not make you look bad.

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