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I worked at Booz for 4 years and have been at Deloitte for 6 months. Deloitte expects a lot from you outside of your client work, so when you get home you’ll typically need to log back on to work on proposals, firm initiatives, etc. The client work I was exposed to at Booz was much more on the operational side and Deloitte has been more on the strategy/business development side. Happy to chat more privately
How much do you think firm initiatives weigh in the bonus percentage versus client work performance?
Booz Allen will take any contract and has lost a ton of their brand over the years. Deloitte is like old Booz. Hungry and selectively choosing their work. Booz is probably top for SME expertise (such as intelligence analysis) still. Some people just want to settle down and work 40 or less, and that's Booz. Deloitte will work you to the bone, but you'll get what you give.
In the most simple way of looking at it ( I’ve interviewed at both)
Deloitte has a better brand outside of federal (and arguably inside of it, since they’re rapidly growing), higher starting pay, do a lot more strat work than Booz federally, and the people there are all very bright and work hard. The culture reflects this, so you’ll work a lot more at Deloitte fed than Booz.
For Booz, there’s a lot of staff aug, people who are coasting, comfortable in the same position, etc. which isn’t bad, but some people can get frustrated with it. Booz has the perks of an insane work life balance (40-45hour weeks).
Overall, both for federal are one of the top options IMO, Deloitte likely will offer faster growth
Have also worked for both sides and have found Booz to be a more collaborative culture. Both companies do staff aug. Both have interesting projects. Both have pay variation depending on the team you’re aligned to. I prefer Booz and have not had to sacrifice my WLB to advance, still do interesting work, and am compensated well.
I declined a VERY handsome offer elsewhere based on much of what you are saying here.
Not interested in giving as much of me as a “very handsome” offer would expect.
I’ve worked for both and I prefer Booz Allen; I’m not trying to make partner and value wlb. Deloitte is intense and cutthroat.
One other point to consider is that Booz is a top heavy organization, with the majority of VPs through partners coming from the good ole days of federal consulting, this means most of them are inept at actually running a business. The best example of this is the antiquated cost structure, where booz has one of the highest multiples despite bonuses only going to senior associates and above. Furthermore the firm has a tendency to become fixated on certain initiatives such as fed sim which is really glorified staff aug with giant ceilings. Finally there is still a lot of internal tension in the firm from the current CEO pushing out the former co-CEO to Carlye. However this is what I have seen as an independent consultant, the rank and file might be experiencing something different
I was talking about this with a friend who is at Deloitte and it depends on what you want/what your goals are. I personally like being in a staff augmentation role because I like working on projects in more of a *gasp* contractor role. He liked doing the more traditional consulting work. I would be happy to be poached for an actual fed position based on my work as a "contractor" but his goals were more focused on the private sector.