Can we stop saying the violence and rioting is good? Even Obama is speaking out against it.

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It doesn’t need to be good... it shouldn’t be good. It’s necessary, nothing else has worked.

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That’s a heavy anarchistic stance which I think a lot of people are starting to feel. I’m just not sure everyone’s ready to reap what they sow if this situation truly gets out of control.

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On the other hand, the small minority of folks who’ve resorted to violence in various forms, whether out of genuine anger or mere opportunism, are putting innocent people at risk, compounding the destruction of neighborhoods that are often already short on services and investment and detracting from the larger cause. I saw an elderly black woman being interviewed today in tears because the only grocery store in her neighborhood had been trashed. If history is any guide, that store may take years to come back. So let’s not excuse violence, or rationalize it, or participate in it. If we want our criminal justice system, and American society at large, to operate on a higher ethical code, then we have to model that code ourselves.

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EY OP - I think it’s the way you said it, “even Obama” is against violence - as if you were surprised that he would condone it.

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God, I miss Barack.

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Do you realize that focusing exclusively and highlighting the rioting is as detrimental to the cause as saying that’s it’s good?

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Good OP. A lot making these statements don’t though. One particular one that comes to my mind is our current president.

Of course Obama is speaking out against it. He understands these issues beyond, “the business has insurance and I’m mad so I can destroy it”. But as long as people think looting is a-okay since insurance will just pay for everything they won’t listen because they don’t understand.

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You're giving a lot of credit to looters if you think they're taking insurance claims into consideration.

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This is where we have come to in donald trump's America. Peaceful protests simply won't work in his country. The divide he has created has set the stage for revolt. The violence he has encouraged against ppl of color and other minorities have in turn validated violence in their protests. Their message will heard effectively in this grotesque political environment THAT HE CREATED. Previously, protests like this would be denounces by both sides. Clearly that's not happening anymore in trumps America.

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I agree Deliotte 3. He needs to stop all of these divisive talking points. The only solution now is to lay out a robust path for positive legal and social change nationwide. All hes doing right now is cementing minorities and ppl of color to the blue vote. Hes pretty dumb and won't realize that though.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but Obama doesn't speak for me or my politics and I wish people would stop holding him up as some kinda gotcha whenever they're trying to argue against anyone left of center. Dude's barely left of center and has a history of murdering civilians with drone strikes, he's not a paragon to leftists.

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We can respectfully disagree :)

No offense but Obama only represents himself. Let’s stop looking to people for a view and find our own view.

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That’s definitely not true and I’m black. Stop caring about what people think and think for yourself.

OP, name one person here who has said the violence and rioting are good. If “everyone” is saying that then it should be trivial for you to find an example. We’ll wait.

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OP thanks for the examples. I’m on the fence about what “good” means here. If you mean helpful to the overall goal of eliminating police brutality especially against people of color, hard to say until the future happens. If you mean “I am happy about them” definitely not.

What do you suggest happens, OP?

No. Why would you think that?

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