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Can we talk about the double standard that partners have when it comes to their work product compared to that produced by an associate? I put together a solid MSJ, but have a minor typo on the first page and it’s as if I committed high treason. Then you have the partner who cranks out absolute garbage and sees nothing wrong with it. Just needed to get that off my chest. I got a pissy email from a partner tonight that made me tear up a bit 😿

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It’s always easier to spot someone else’s typos when reading their WP for the first time than it is to spot all of your own on your 20th revision when you are 15 hours in. You really grow blind to them even when they are staring you in the face.

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1. Your value does not depend on partners who don’t remember what it’s like to be human 2. You’re going to meet many more people like this in our career 3. They probably see it as some sort of hazing or requisite “suffering” 4. It’s not really a big deal; I had a partner who constantly turned work back to me covered in red and also pointed out “small/minor errors” but it’s what we have to go through/learn. It’s small to us but it shows attention to detail. I know it’s frustrating and the overall work product might be great.. but as even better lawyers, we shouldn’t be making minor errors like that (to them/thought of in a different light). Edit/ I confronted that partner later on and he took me on a walk. Apparently, when he was an associate, a partner did the same thing to him and he’d stay hours revising and redoing. “But I learned”, is what he said.

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Thanks a lot for the kind words! You truly helped pull me out of my funk.

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When I joined my current firm a few months ago, I was shocked at this as well. Partner would not only tell me I had a small typo, he’d make me comb the document to find the typo myself (it was a Pronoun and thus didn’t come up in spell check). One time he even said “stop with the mistakes, the Court won’t except [sic!!!] this.” And that’s when I realized, it’s his problem and not mine. I confronted him and he said the same thing as L1 - that’s how he was taught when he was an associate and he’d go back and revise again and again until it was good enough. He learned, and so will I. Still doesn’t make him any less of an asshole though.

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One of the partners I work for is HUGE on attention to detail *for associates*, but managed to have typos galore and references to 2020 rather than 2021 throughout the last draft he sent to me (kind of important). I feel you! Hang in there! I hope you can get some proper food and rest!

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While I sympathize with the point you’re making (especially partners losing their stuff over a typo), it’s far more likely that the senior lawyer knows that you will proof their documents and catch any typos, which is far more efficient than that partner proof reading for typos at well over $1k an hour.

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Fun story: I had a reviewer once who was notoriously difficult. For an instruction letter, I referred to a letter they had written themselves in the past to get certain phrasing exactly how they like it by almost copying and pasting it word for word, only changing the references until I got to the actual legal stuff in the letter. I got a redline back saying the legal stuff was fine, but the intro, conclusion, and format were terrible. I just smiled and quietly updated the draft knowing they really are just ripping things apart for the sake of ripping things apart.

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You have a lot of restraint! I would have tried to find a way to politely but affirmatively point out the precedent’s source. Easier said than done of course.

Hang in there! It’s impossible to not make mistakes when they’re throwing a bunch of assignments at you with tight deadlines.

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Omg did I write this?? Just know you’re not alone, and it’s probably more about the partner flexing their power than it is about you

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Because law is a toxic environment where some partners think they can disrespect you

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Let’s make a pact to make it stop with us!

Not everyone manages like this. Just tough it out and be more careful going forward.

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