Can we talk about the logic behind paying $2400 a week for a travel nurse but being unwilling to even give your staff nurses annual cost of living raises? Maybe if you’d pay your staff nurses well you wouldn’t have to spend $2400+ on a travel nurse.

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It’s something I’ve asked so many times. It’s beyond dumb. More than financially. The morale of a floor can be ruined knowing some random that doesn’t know procedures and where things are are getting paid more.

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All employees even traveling nurses have an orientation. They don't just start in day one without another nurse preceptor. I'm a nurse technician at Advent Health. When I was hired the Traveling Nurses were in orientation and received the same training as all new staff nurses. Rest assured hospitals don't take risks that cause lawsuits. Your dealing with people's lives and they are watched carefully. In a final thought. I think travel nurse are better versed because they take many roles and learn the entire hospital. I would rather a travel nurse care for my family than a recent graduate nurse. Just saying from my own perspective. It's like getting a well rounded nurse who can jump in and fit it that's actually knowledgeable.

That is a tough one since travel nurses are usually paid as contractors and don't have the stability of a full-time employee. Everybody has the option to become one; some people make sacrifices, so I suggest you look at that opportunity.

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This is true. I did “travel” nursing close to home as well as distanced.

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I’m guessing that it works out for the hospitals because they don’t have to pay travelers health insurance , retirement , other benefits .

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I work for a large hospital system, I’m not part of administration but I am involved in meetings that go over our local and national finances. This year we are on track to lose $1billion nationally. Our labor costs alone increased by $900 million because of contract labor and incentive pay to maintain operations. The cost of contract labor is not sustainable, hospitals literally cannot afford it but have to use it because shutting down operations would be catastrophic towards patient care. Our hospital system didn’t give cost of living adjustments last year either, but I’d rather go without that than get laid off.

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Right, "catastrophic towards patient care." I'm sure that's why they're not shutting down operations 🙄

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I understand where you are coming from, but traveling nurses also go months sometimes without work. Staff nurses at least have the stability of a job.

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There’s almost always agency work somewhere, especially nowadays and usually winter is slower and then there’s unemployment when you’re off work and you can spend long about the time with your family while getting paid unemployment as long as there aren’t any current opportunities within 50 miles of where you live usually. That being said, I may not be an opportunity to have time off work much for agency anymore. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I believe the logic behind that they aren’t being compensated with full-time benefits which can cost up to 10-20k easily per year per employee.

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It’s understandable, guess I would just have to see it all on paper.

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Very true

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It’s all about budgets. Travel nursing salaries are often not considered on the same “line” as staff salaries.

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So true

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The money a hospital saves by paying a travel nurse here and there is significant compared to having to fully raise everyone on the teams salary, not even starting to mention additional benefits those costs come with

Keep in mind, paying a traveler is a short term commitment, even if they somehow got paid benefits. Plus that traveler doesn't always make what the hospital pays. The hospital may pay an agency, who takes their cut, may or may not provide benefits to the traveler, then the traveler may also have to pay higher taxes as a 1099 not w2 employee. THEN you have to see the fulltime staff as an ongoing annual commitment for years ahead. It's very easy to not renew an expensive traveler quarterly. It's much more difficult in staff morale, and sometimes HR, to actually fire a fulltime employee to cut costs (assuming you can even get enough fulltime applicants worth hiring!)

Traveling nurses get tax free dollars called Stipend pay. It's actually a very smart way to earn a living. Yes your a 1099 but if you create an LLC and write off expensive then you will win. YouTube university can help you understand what I'm talking about..just saying this for those who hate paying taxes at a Single rate.

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These hospitals don’t pay any of the staff from the kitchen , to CNA’s and unit clerks up to nurses a living wage . Paying someone 16 or 17 an hour is not enough for anyone to pay there bills sad part is we need people in theses spots in order to function but can’t afford to pay them . Cut out bonuses to administrators and directors and maybe we can get the money we deserve!

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