Company doesn't want to disclose the range they're offering and have twice asked for my current salary (which I've refused to give). They've also said my expected salary is higher than budgeted. So now I've asked them point blank what they're offering but silence so far. Could I've done anything different?

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You did good. Ask them what the budget is. If the salary is not within your expectation for the position and your experience, move on to a different opportunity. Sometimes it just doesn't match. Don't take less then regret that you are under pay vs the market.

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I walked away from a company that did this and they kept calling me for a week. Finally they told me and it was a serious lowball. I said that wasn’t close and he said they could go higher. I asked him not to call again.

If they’re going to mess with someone this early, they’ll keep making you fight for pay and raises. There’s power in walking away.

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To GT1 point, if this is how they're treating you in recruiting, consider how work, evaluations, and promotions may be

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Move on they seem to be a huge red flag

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Give your desired salary range for your current salary.

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What state are you in? It is illegal in some states to ask your current salary?

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I don’t understand why recruiters think this is a secret. We always disclose our range (Fortune 25). Always ask for what the role is budgeted for.

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Same here, Fortune 100. But it’s fair to say that we do that because it attracts high quality people. We pay above market. If a company won’t disclose, then that’s a red flag.

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You could have replied that their budget was clearly below the market rate.

However, it looks like they are looking to underway to anyone they hire regardless of your expected salary and / or experience.

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If your expected salary is higher than they expected there's your answer. Walk away.

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Every reasonable company has pay ranges based on pay grade and level of responsibility. It makes no sense they will not divulge this information because you both could be wasting your time. I would respond that your current salary is not pertinent because it is for a job you are leaving. You have absolutely nothing to lose because you most likely don’t want to work there.

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I would move on. Don’t settle or negotiate your worth.

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Never settle, but always negotiate

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1: As I'm sure you appreciate my current salary is considered business sensitive by my current organisation. However, I'm far more interested in discussing the fair market rate for this role, and what range you have available around benefits, sign on bonus and so forth we can negotiate to find the best fit.


2: rather than discuss a role I'm leaving I'd be far more interested in discussing this roles responsibilities and what an ideal candidate would look like. I'd also prefer to understand the full compensation package for this role.

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Not legal for them to ask you to disclose your salary. If you were my bff I’d tell you to write a review on Glassdoor. 🙃

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You did great! One it’s illegal to ask what one’s current salary is. That needs to be worded differently. As a recruiter we always know the budgeted salary even if it’s a range based on location and/or experience. I never give the range because we aren’t allowed too but I always let candidates know if we can’t afford them or if they are selling themselves short. I always say something along the lines of “im here to advocate for you and only you know your worth. Is there a range you are looking for moving into your next role and if so could you possibly break this down into base salary, equity and so forth. I am here to advocate for you so I will make sure we get you as much as we are possibly able to but I do want to make sure we can actually afford you before putting you through an intense interview process.” I also let them know I will not hold them too whatever range/numbers they give if I know we can offer higher

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Red flag

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It’s illegal for them to ask what you make and also would say this is a red flag and it’s a comoany that owns value fair wages for employees. It’s a candidate market. You could do better

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It doesn't sound like they're a good match in terms of salary. When a company is sketchy about salary, red flags go up. I'd move on.

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Better you know this now before you waste your time with them and have a perfectly good opportunity pass you by

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Legally,
They cannot ask you what you currently make. Save those communications because if you are unsuccessful you have a solid case against them. All they can ask you is what salary you require, which you have given so the ball is in their court.

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