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Genuine question: has she done anything for the Asian community since those tweets to redeem herself and show growth/learning? If so I would be much more inclined to forgive and move on. If not, then the apology feels pretty hollow.
agree with bcg 1. people don't change easily. the onus is on you to convince that you have - with evidence of repeatedly demonstrated different behavior over time. in the absence of that, hard to believe how genuine those words are. i for one don't think for a sec the person who wrote those tweets a decade ago has transformed into a fundamentally different person she is today. for that to happen requires a life-altering experience. i don't know if she has experienced that.
I knew better when I was 18 than to make extremely racist comments.
Some things run deep, and her apology is for being caught.
We still playing the dig up decade old tweets game that were already dug up? Come on guys.
It’s obvious to me that if this incoming Editor had been white and said such things about African-Americans, even in the distant past, she would have been canned immediately. There are just too many equally qualified people. But Asians? Soft target, won’t make too much noise, just apologize and move on apparently
Well said.
Just look at this thread. How many of us think it is not a big deal and she should be easily let go? If we Asians don’t treat ourselves seriously, others won’t
In general I think we should accept that people evolve and change (some comments I made 10 years ago were just absurd). But what makes me mad is how this instance is treated differently from all other similar cases where the culprit is White
B thanks for clarifying you were speaking more just from your own personal thresholds.
I think we're likely eye to eye on the issue at large, I'm just focusing in on this specific instance. If this had been the first time the tweets had been unearthed? Agree with your ideas. This is old news, she already publicly apologized, and is now having it brought up again. It feels like a waste of precious little public attention to be re-trying someone for their childhood missteps than dismissing this as a non-story and pivoting to bigger and more recent fish
Know this is old news and we have way more serious issues at hand now, but just wanted to update that Alexi McCammond resigned the editor in chief position.
Now THIS is something I care about
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I am indeed frustrated that people have lost their jobs over less, albeit not against Asians. However, I think this whole process of internet lynch mobs digging up decades-old posts is fundamentally idiotic, so I’ll stay consistent and say, “can we not?”
I also think the teen Vogue staff made a good move at least bringing it up, because now it’s much more likely that she will be conscious of the issue. If they hadn’t said anything, it is a possibility that she would have been dismissive of Asian employees, stories, and issues as editor in a way that’s hard to fight against. There’s a difference between someone who doesn’t say racist things out loud and someone who really tries to be inclusive, and I think at the very least, bringing this issue to light will pressure her to be the latter.
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