Considering applying to Jackson Lewis. How much could I expect to make as a 8th year? What's the work life balance like? While expected billables on paper are 1850, what's the actual billables they expect you to bill?

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I’m an associate at Jackson Lewis. Your income will depend entirely on which office you’re applying to. It’s otherwise lockstep. And 1850 is definitely all that is expected, although we get hours bonuses if you elect to do more than that. It’s a great firm.

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I received an offer for 165 in a major market as a 5th year

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I applied to a position there, and in addition to raises being lockstep, they determine compensation based on COL tiers. The pay isn’t great. I’m pretty sure they lag behind Fisher Phillips, Ogletree, and Littler, but JL is more heavy on “traditional” insurance defense (i.e., low to mid range EPLI retention matters) than the other members of the L&E Boutique Big Four. CERTAINLY, the pay will be far better than a general insurance defense sweatshop like Wilson Elser or Marshall Dennehey.

I have been told that while the 1850 target is real (and they’ll credit a decent number of pro Bono and professional development hours toward that number), your hours don’t count if they’re written off of the bill (although that’s true at a lot of firms).

I can tell you that when I interviewed a couple years back as a fifth year at a non-NYC Mid-Atlantic office, they said the base pay would be 144 (they brought up comp on their own, to my surprise). Unless they’ve done a market adjustment, perhaps an eighth year would be around 165?

The people I know that work at JL like it, and they seem to have a good culture. Money isn’t everything, and it’s not like the other L&E boutiques pay anywhere near Cravath scale.

Pretty good wlb. You just have to learn to say no if you're at capacity, as there's plenty of work to keep you busy past the minimum. Also, I disagree that JL lags behind Fisher or the other big 4 in pay. interviewed at Fisher and they told me their pay, which was the same as JL. This was in the mid 200s for more senior level (non partner), after the market adjustments this year. And of course, this is in a major market.

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