Considering moving back to SF area for job, but worried I wouldn’t find a woman to seriously date or marry in next 5 years. I lived in SF before & I had about 15 months with no viable opportunities

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come on man!!!.. Not sure what the problem is, but happy to chat offline.. Happy to share some practical advice

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I don’t want a sugar baby and that’s mainly what I encountered in SF

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Exactly this as above about widening the spectrum. Maybe consider dating someone outside the norm. Some of the happiest relationships around me are people with people they wouldn't have expected to be happy with. Not all intelligent people are in wheeling and dealing careers. Try different scenes. If you are sick of marketing and PR ladies, stop trying to pick up where they hang out.

All in all, women will be attracted to self-sustaining men, who know how to show affection, in non-creepy ways, who have inveated in themselves well: fitness, mental health, hobbies, work, family, retirement. Volunteer. Workout. Be a better person all around and you'll attract better people. If you're trying to fill a void go to church or get a dog or something. Think about what you're bringing rather than what you're getting.

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The dating scene for female is equivalently bad. The amount of self-consumed tech bros just drowned out most of the eligible bachelors out there. It’s a real problem

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This screams incel

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Op's gripe is valid. The dating scene in sf is imbalanced with more single men than single women. Reverse is true in NY.

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I think you need someone to coach you up a bit. I volunteer

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San Francisco is objectively a horrible place. It has gotten worse. Long LA - its market for tech and private equity is growing tremendously. Silicon Beach is the place to be

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I can’t wait to make the move from NYC to LA

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I mean this can be a legitimate concern. Isn’t the ratio of men to women disproportionate in SF?

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I should have clarified, there are real marketing jobs, and then their are tweeting jobs where you get paid $30K. I am not referring to post MBB marketing gurus here. And same with HR. There is actual expertise in HR, and then there is your basic level recruiter who has zero skills and often has people with little career ambition.

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The ratio of men to women is highly imbalanced in SF. OP has a valid concern

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Mail order bride?

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Sounds like a supply/demand imbalance in need of some import/export strategies... I return to my original mail order bride recommendation.

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Maybe broaden your dating spectrum? That stuff is Gucci in sf

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Seriously. Find a wife before moving to SF. That’s the most practical advice I got when I was deciding between SF and another city

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Why is your goal the next five years? Life doesn't usually work according to arbitrary timelines and checklists that way.

I think single 40M to be real sexy ;) it does give the vibes that you’ve been fooling around for the last 20 years of your life. But hey, I’m 31F that is now just settling down. People settle down older these days. You know what you want and only need to find the right person

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Sounds like a personal problem

It’s more of a question of quality.. there are too many tech bros/ladies in SF to make dating interesting

what race are you? asking because I noticed that diff races have diff dating patterns. as a 30 y/o Asian American man dating Asian american girls, it's fairly ok. (had to specify Asian American b/c the newly arrived Chinese folks have yet another very diff dating pattern) I have lots of Hispanic friends and they find it ok too.

I joined a gym to find girls when I was in sf, but the gym was literally all guys. So that wasn’t a good strategy.

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