consultant šŸ , are you all as conservative as the deloitters, pwcā€™ers, and eyā€™ers that normally post here are?

there seems to be a huge difference in social opinion between ad agencies and consultancies here and i was curious if thatā€™s the norm.

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TIL coming up with a hypothesis and backing up findings with actual data = conservative. We all canā€™t be on the side of imagination as hope/well wishing is not a course of action.

Seriously though, when you get a daily, intensive hands-on course on how data can be manipulated to say whatever you want it to say, you gain professional skepticism, which allows you to ask the right questions and quickly figure out whether something is true or if it needs additional research.

Thatā€™s all. Itā€™s not being conservative, itā€™s just being able to figure out whether a situation is BS, and whether you want to assume the risk of being/dealing with said situation.

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Deloitte 1, fat consultants giving bad advice shouldn't throw stones in glass houses. I cringe when I hear clients tell me how much they paid for the shit advice they were given. As for conservatives, the two things they focus on in the end are lower tax and abortion issue. Let's be honest here.

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As a conservative senior level creative, I agree with the other poster who said weā€™ve learned to keep our mouths shut. Smile and nod. People also want to treat everything likes it binary - itā€™s this or that. No room for debate or argument.

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I think itā€™s maturity. Not everything needs debate or argument.

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Ugh, I wish this was true for EY. A liberal talking about their feelings is praised while a conservative mentioning facts is attacked. So I just donā€™t talk.

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@D1 yeah I was referring to the other example from your post - but I will certainly google that first bit

I use to identify as a conservative, but then they changed what it meant to be one...definitely not one now as I still believe in facts and science

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The problem is that most of those types of republicans decided to not run for re-election, to get the f away from this administration rather than stand up and be a voice of reason

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OP...to say those organizations are ā€œconservativeā€ based on postings here in ā€œthe bowlā€ is a galactic assumption

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Excellent use of nincompoop

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I have been an IT consultant for 20 years. I have been employed by a couple of different big consulting firms.

I am a proud socialist.

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I do see a higher proportion of consultants being conservative (regardless of company) on fb than in real life. Likely because being anonymous allows them to be vocal

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Not even remotely conservative

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Same.

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My observation is similar to OP. The big difference in what Iā€™ve seen is the conservative consultants posting are unwavering and very quick to drop their opinion like a bomb.
While some liberals do this there are far more liberals willing to question and banter to understand.
Thus the debate... it typically starts with a post from a more liberal minded person asking to understand the conservative opinion and perspective.
My ex- and father both voted Trump and itā€™s similar. Absolute unwavering blanket opinions... I donā€™t get it. Iā€™m willing to listen and try to understand. Again, my observation (not backed by data) šŸ˜Š

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I definitely consider myself a tad left of center, but given that I live in the midwest that probably means a tad right of center in comparison to coastal folks.

All I know is Donnie is the quite probably the biggest idiot to ever hold office as an elected official. I cannot fathom how anyone at this point could still have faith in that man or think the words that come out of his mouth are at any point a coherent thought.

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There are many many of us šŸ˜‰

While I won't be supporting Trump, I remain fiscally conservative, believe in strong and fair immigration policies, support our police and the rule of law. The obession with identity politics will be incredibly counterproductive in the long run. I also support pro-American trade policies.
Trump is corrupt and morally bankrupt, but I still believe America is the best country in the world and that Conservatism can recover to carry forward these ideals with someone actually fitting of the office of the presidency at the helm šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²

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Iā€™m a foaming-at-the-mouth liberal, but I support this take.

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Iā€™m fairly liberal. Working in federal consulting there are a fair number of conservatives. Iā€™d actually say we are likely much more socially liberal than the majority of the firm that works for private sector clients. Among practitioners (Manager and below), Iā€™d say itā€™s majority liberal while leadership (Senior managers and Partners) is about half and half, maybe a bit more conservative.

One thing that has given me some hope is that while many of my coworkers continue to identify as conservative, many also recognize that this administration is... off. Itā€™s not the party that they joined and supported in the past (a lot of W voters).

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Am I the only one that differentiates between a small c conservative and a capital C Conservative?

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Good to know. I actually love hearing from the creative directors, copywriters, etc. in this bowl. Itā€™s nice to have fresh perspectives and learn something new.

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public accounting and consulting is predominantly filled with the kind of people who would call themselves ā€œsocially liberal but fiscally conservative.ā€ those who are right wing on the social issues too or hang too far left on the economy all learn to keep their mouths shut.

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I consider myself a moderate. I donā€™t typically have strong views on things one way or another. I assess each issue on its individual merits. I have also been told that I am now the ā€œthe problemā€.

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Im a consultant that works with agencies and brands. Iā€™ve worked inside many agencies freelance and full time in my career. This is spot on the difference between Corp world and agencies in political views. I think it boils down to analytical education and being exposed to non-narrative business, financial & legal facts that make consultants and Corp biz people in general more conservative.

Agencies are pro at the narrative as they exist to create them. Many great people in agencies but itā€™s groupthink on steroids today and why in some cases there is such a lack of diverse thinking inside.

I am moderate and even lean somewhat right. I am very socially liberal being LGBT, married with a kid and growing up in a biracial family with a parent who was a minister. I am not religious myself.

With this lens, both sides lose me in so many ways that I am non party affiliated. I like to look at facts and data and most importantly what real people think. Both parties have bogarted media outlets that spew cultish messages and both in their own way can be very divisive.

Iā€™m certainly not a republican for obvious reasons with their platform and the fact I loathe Trump and blame the GOP for capitulating to him. Iā€™m not a Democrat because as a business owner here in the state of CA they are making it impossible to grow business and I do not want intrusive government or high taxes in general.

Libertarians lose me as they see no role for the government at all in helping for example the developmentally disabled and are against any kind of safety net for the most vulnerable among us, like a paid into unemployment insurance system (no brainer).

Conservative thinking, (when removing any agendas that align with religious or bigoted extremes that aim to limit rights of others) in general win out for me. Itā€™s less reactionary and leaves more to the individual agency of a person, no matter their race, position, or financial status.

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As a deloitte person, I am appalled by many posts on here.

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Consultants are a risk averse group of folks that instead of using brains to launch companies decided to join the safest option available

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