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Could someone at West Monroe explain the hierarchy past the SC level? Are all those in Blue the same level/rank (mgr, principal, architect)?

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PM1 is close: Principal - expert at a single area/industry/function Architect - technologist with broad experience across many areas Manager - leader in projects/client management/delivery Remember, WM was first a technology firm, hence the differentiating tracks to single out people in roles that are not just "manager". The vast majority in those rows do follow the generic consulting "manager" track. All 3 do go to senior, then can either stay at the senior level (if someone wants to focus on client delivery), become an innovation fellow (basically someone leading a key offering and innovating around it), or moving into the traditional Director/MD/Partner/Senior Partner path which gets more into executive leadership, client/account direction, practice/area leadership. If you cannot tell, I work for West Monroe. Feel free to DM me if you have any questions.

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It’s a career path map. An SC can become a Principal or an Architect or a Manager as they’re equal in level, with different roles abs responsibilities. Then the next level progression is the next column of dark blue, and regardless of if you’re an SP/SA/SM you can become any of the three final chevrons. It’s a flexible career model so you can pivot down the line if you prefer. Is that a correct read of it?.....

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Not rocket science lol... and I only work at KPMG 🤣

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This doesn’t seem that complex? SC can go up to Principal, Architect or Manager and subsequently the senior title. Then any of them can go to one of the final roles If that’s wrong, then it may be complex lol

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Correct!

Yes, they call it the “PAM” level, and each role represents a different track. The tracks are essentially expert (principal), technical (architect), and sales (manager).

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But what’s the difference between principal, architect and manager

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They have different annual expectations and often fulfill distinct rolls on projects.

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How can a senior manager be higher in rank than a principal???

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Because not everyone defines principal as something like a partner. It's just like how basically everyone in banking is a Vice President at 24 years old. Think of it this way, a captain in the army is the 3rd officer rank and not very high up, but a captain in the navy is almost God-like, just beneath admiral.

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Checks out

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What is the difference between senior principal and senior manager?

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We have senior principles on many topics - they tend to be functional or industry experts (Organizational Change Mgmt, Commercial Lending, Health Systems, etc) that play an SME role for projects. Overall they have less focus on day to day project / client management and more focus on supporting projects, Business development, and other internal efforts with their expertise

D1 is correct, but feel free to DM me if you have any additional questions.

Didnt they recently make all senior managers automatically directors

No, not at all. There’s a new level called director.

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