Crisis hit in Europe and our first response was to check market news to assess supply chain impacts, call our C-suite contacts and cook up a proposal to help save their business. I did that (to impress my boss), you did the same, and my leadership did the same. How superficial have we become? Sorry just ranting.

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Was at a major insurer when a spaceship carrying satellites intended to develop an internet infrastructure in Africa went down and our entire focus for a week was figuring out how much coverage we had on it.

Decided to work exclusively with non-profits for a few years after that.

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That’s how insurance works I think

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OP and then you neglected to say how our firm was making a donation to help the people in Ukraine and how we wanted to make sure our people and our clients had access to us for whatever they needed. All this with no business generation as the premise.

You should provide the whole picture before making us look like soulless and selfish individuals.

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You honestly think that money is going where you think it is? If you believe that you’re naive

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Hate to say it, but this doesn’t involve us. If Putin is trying to reinstate the USSR, it will fail again. As an American, of course I’m more concerned with the American impacts. I can have empathy for the Ukrainian (and Baltic) peoples because war sucks. But I am concerned with how this will affect the US.

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Isolationist viewpoints were wrong in 1935 and they are incredibly short-sighted in the global economy of 2022. Will stop far short of advocating for military action - or even supporting Ukrainian forces with lethal aid - but this definitely involves us.

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then we check our stocks, local gas prices and wonder what we should stock up on in case prices rise

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You’re right to rant. Here’s the thing…better you’re ranting about it than doing it gleefully with cold indifference

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What are we supposed to do? We all have work that needs to get done regardless of what's happening in the world. We elect world leaders to handle the crisis in Europe, not everyday citizens.

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Oh boi that is some drastic outsourcing of responsibility

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It’s not superficial. The economy is literally life and death— we have the privilege of being in America, where supply chain issues and a recession only mean a later retirement.

When America sneezes, the rest of the world gets the flu. Supply chain issues that affect America inevitably lead to widespread horror in developing nations. Recessions set back world poverty and hunger, literally killing hundreds of thousands / affecting millions or billions.

The “worry about x, not the economy” rhetoric is the very definition of first world problems / privilege.

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On 9/11 we'd filled 3 whiteboards in a conference room calculating the temperature required for steel to buckle and fail in various orientations. Sometimes to process tragedy you do what is familiar. Don't hold yourself to some sick and twisted standard on that front unless your C-suite contacts were Putin...

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Yeah, what Oliver Wyman 1 said. I too remember that time well and how we were all struggling to process it. Many volunteered for the military directly after 9/11. Proud of how people stepped up that day and many days after that. We were not insensitive. We were all just trying to process and mobilize. Response to a crisis is not slow because of indifference, nor always motivated by greed when services companies like ours try to step up. Response can be fractured, slow to ramp up and can struggle to find meaningfulness amidst confusion, disorientation and a sense of helplessness. Service takes many forms. Try not to let cynicism be your own first instinct when you hear how people or firms are responding. We can’t all be like SpaceX and send over communication satellites for free (really, what a stud move by Elon! He IS crazy but noble too)

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I looked up how to send money Ukrainian armed forces.

How to contact my representatives to urge military action.

Reached out to my family in Ukraine and see if they needed anything that I could possibly provide.


Not all of is are like you. If you work with C suite urge them to use their influence for action

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https://ukraine.ua/news/support-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine/

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Would you rather businesses shut down and people lose their livelihoods when there’s a crisis? Would that help the Ukrainians?

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Shut those businesses down in Russia

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That is our reality, pal. It’s not our fight, but they’d be happy to have an extra body if you’re feeling superficial and an unfulfilled humanitarian.

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Wow, so much empathy.

These activities sound constructive - someone has to solve for Russia related supply chain impacts, cybersecurity risks. Ideally the value we create is greater than what we bill (this may not always happen - so agree with OP in that regard).

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No, I actually didn’t. The first thing I did was check on my family in Europe, then offered my support to friends and colleagues from Ukraine. I then researched ways to help and donated $. Work and profit was the last thing on my mind.

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This isn’t a criticism, but it wasn’t my first response. I want to help; I’m grieving for them; and I’ve been completely distracted at work by what is happening. I don’t know that any of that is actually helpful, to be honest. But I hope that in wanting to be helpful, I’ll do so when I have the opportunity. I think times like these are important to decide how we want to react and what choices we want to make, which will impact who we are moving forward.

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If you have business clients in Ukraine or related it is time to focus on disaster recovery services and move them to cloud

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I did the same? False. Yesterday was a regular day. This week has been a regular week from a work perspective. I don’t anticipate anything changing at work from this

I think it’s a general feeling of not being able to really help in any way, so what else can we do? It’s not the right attitude but it’s reality.

There are so many organizations on the front lines that you can donate to, to directly help. They need $ to evacuate people and give them basic aid.

U wouldn’t be saying this if the markets crashed because of Russia invading Ukraine and u lost ur job or the bulk of ur wealth in the stock market

We’ve always been this superficial

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