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Currently on PIP but have to take vacations for two and half weeks due to family issues. I’m worried if I’ll give a bad impression and fail my pip because of my vacation days. What should I do?

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Bounce back in a less demanding, better paying job.

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Family is and will always be more important than work. Take the time needed to address "family issues" and then come back to work and put in your best effort to address your PIP. If it doesn't work out, you will find a different job that fits, if it does work out, you will be happy you put family first when needed.

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If I was ever put on a pip I would just get a new job. Not sticking around in a firm that thinks I'm no good. You can easily just jump to another firm or look for industry job.

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If you're on a pip it's time to look for another position.

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PwC 4 it means "Performance Improvement Plan", but it's not about improving performance so much as it's about HR documenting problems in order to fire an underperformer.

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I've bounced back from a PIP before. It took a lot of work and changing, but more so just a jolt to any confidence I had. A year after recovering from the PIP I threw in the towel and found somewhere else that actually valued me as a contributing human who is very good at solving issues. That last group was just so toxic. At the time I felt the need to try harder - and I did. So much that it physically hurt to even go to work anymore. I felt like so much weight was lifted off my shoulders after quitting. Best decision yet.

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What’s in your PIP? When does it end? These things matter as far as the outcome, but regardless I’d say our family first you can always find a new job

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Wait why is ETrade here?!

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If you are on pip does not mean for a second that no flexibility and no vacation. PIP is not a punishment.

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Talk to HR and your coach/RP to see if you can extend the PIP by two weeks. Also if utilization is a metric in your PIP, talk to them about having the PIP being evaluated without the vacation time

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Talk to HR and get an extension. They should work with you

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Take the time off and look for a new job.

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Where I work, there are two types of pips. The kind where you are just doing badly temporarily and it’s realistic that you can bounce back and overcome it by meeting the criteria within the timeframe... or the kind that is clearly unattainable. Figure out what you have. If the former, do as others have said and work with HR to extend or exclude the vacation from utilization. If the latter, you need to look for a new job. Source: I’m a senior manager and have had to put people on pips.

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I heard that PIP is just a way for the company to layoff you without being sued by you in the future. So I would say take your vacation and find another job.

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Thanks guys so much for your advice. My pip started in early July and will end at the end of September. It is still the beginning of pip and I just don’t want to give a bad impression at the beginning then get fired immediately. I don’t wanna give up and I want to show improvement. But it’s true, family is more important

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You don’t state what the family issue is (I’m not asking) but many companies have leave for family issues and short term disability may be an option if the issue is your health. Check with HR or a people counselor who may be able to advise and often are looking out for employees sometimes more than direct managers. If your situation qualifies, I would take leave vs vacation as the PIP cannot be enacted if you are on official leave status.

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Some firms will exit employees without putting them on a PIP. I would have a conversation with your coach and/or partner frequently to figure out if this can work out for you. Your family is way more important than your job. We are all replaceable in our firms, not so with family

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Pwc 5, people leave not companies, people leave teams and environment. Get environment right and everyone can flourish and perform. I know that works for 100%. If you being treated like mediocre, everyone gonna perform up to that level of mediocrity. Pygmalion effect.

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How’d you get on a PIP ?

Novice here - what does PIP stand for?

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