Dear Bowl,
What is the average tc (pls breakdown) for an L4 PgM in New York? And if you could go back in time when your offer was being generated, are there certain requests you would’ve made (e.g max out your base or sign-on bonus) etc. appreciate any and all insight and guidance :D!

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Can you give us numbers to react to instead?
And add technical or non technical

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Recently HC approved/team matched and recruiter going to speak with me soon on offer details, potential relocation and sign on? i want to go in sorta knowing what i could expect 7+ YoE.. and non-technical, wouldn’t technical be a TpM?

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It would but sometimes people just don’t add it. I asked for your expectations because it’s easier to adjust from numbers, it’s much more helpful to have a starting point. G2 has given some to start.

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If you do get sign-on bonus, try to see if can rather add it to equity so that you save yourself some tax money and also the amount grows as google stock grows (or tanks if the stock tanks :p)

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235 TC

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Ask for 250, see what they say. 165 + 15% + 240K equity grant (4 yrs).

They may say that’s too high, but if they already HC approved you, I would try to anchor high.

In NYC as an L4 Program Manager?

Google 1 what do you think overall TC though? Also sign-ons how does that work?

30-50 was the range that I used to see for signing bonuses about ,3 years ago for L5s.

I'd take a meh signing bonus for more equity anyway

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