Did you ever had this feeling of not fitting in? People (including non-legal staff) in my team just ignore me. I know I made some mistakes, but resenting a trainee for that reason seems unfair. Just went to farewell drinks of an associate and only two persons out of 14 actively engaged conversation with me. With the rest I had this feeling of forcing everything and of being the awkward one. People were referring to funny stories on cases we’re working on and that I never heard about.

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Work friends are the most unreliable people. The entire friendship and social status is conditioned on an employee’s success at a very stressful and demanding job. I have been in your shoes but as long as you do your job of being polite and professional, you shouldn’t feel bad.

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It really could be that your vibes just don’t click. Also some groups are much clickier, no matter how old they are. Is there at least one or two people you don’t feel this awkwardness with? Can you build a relationship with them?

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Don’t gaslight yourself - in my experience, it is not true that people don’t bother building relationships because we’re on a rotation. I have been in two departments so far an (luckily) have not experienced this at all and go for regular coffees with seniors I worked with. Sadly, I think it may be a cliquey team / people you do not gel with and this should factor into whether you will qualify into this team. Or, coming from an Italian, maybe they are just French. If you really like the work, and the people are terrible, just qualify somewhere else 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sometimes things that happened during the day while I was completing some boring task… And when I would ask questions about it I would get a one sentence reply and people would just go one with the conversation. Obviously left the party early
I’m sharing my office my a paralegal: associates and LA regularly come to talk to them, so I try to make some jokes or whatever and get a few words answer to be ignored instantly after. They also come to pick them up for lunch without suggesting me to join, the list is long… never happened to me in any previous job

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Sounds like you have social anxiety, which is essentially personified by this post which asks the question that’s lays at the bottom of all social anxiety “what are they thinking about me, I bet they don’t like me.” This can often lead to awkward interactions because you’re more worried about what others think of you than the conversation.

If this sounds right, do not worry lots of lawyers deal with this. The key to shutting this down is to tell that voice in your head to STFU, of course they like me I’m amazing.

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From my extensive research (aka watching Emily in Paris on Netflix) I’m thinking this might be a Parisian thing lol.

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If you’re having trouble with almost everyone, then you should probably look inward.

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You’re in LA? I feel the same way

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No, I’m in Paris

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