Do you feel school psychologists truly help or make things worse?

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I love our school psychologist.

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Ours is AMAZING

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They should have a psychologist in the building who treats the teachers.

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Amen to that! I think we would all benefit.

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It gets worse before it gets better. Mental health required a measured amount of pain in order to resolve issues.

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Is it me, or are almost all school psychologists at least a bit crazy? 🤪

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Possibly!! If I wasn’t before the last 18 months I may be now!! 😱🤪🤣

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We have a good one here. Michigan is right that most of their job is testing and writing them up to place kids in appropriate services.

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Oops S Carolina

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Ours are very good tho some are better than others. We don’t have a psychologist FT, they have multiple schools to service. Very limited role. Mtgs, testing/evaluations, spec Ed paperwork.

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It depends. I have worked with awesome ones and I have worked with absolute nightmares.

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As a former therapist who is now teaching I can understand how a psychologist at the school struggles to connect to students. It takes weeks to build the rapport and trust needed to do meaningful therapy work. But I am an excellent teacher and feel my background in psychology actually gave me a substantial advantage in how to deal with, teach, and connect with my students. I do feel it’s unfair to assume she/he would struggle if given the correct training. If you truly believe that there is something other than their career going on.

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Our school psychologist is AMAZING with students! Her communication with parents, teachers, and admin are straight forward, provide valuable information, and assists teachers when asked for help.

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Our school psychologists don’t council students, the school Swkr does that. Both attend to suicide assessments/threatening beh assessments and crisis intervention.

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I think it depends on the school psych! We had a school psych a few years ago who wasn’t very helpful and never offered classroom support. All she did was test - and to be fair we have 1 in our whole district so there is a LOT of testing to do! But, we just had another one who was absolutely incredible. When she tested a student and they showed struggles in certain areas she came to teachers with specific research based interventions and supported teachers with them! She was legit the best school psychologist I think in the state of NY. She recently left for a job in an absolutely superb district that isn’t over an hour commute and I’m so bummed! We’re having the HARDEST time finding another one. The job has been posted since June and we’ve had 3 incredibly sub par candidates apply. Only 3! Not really sure what we’re going to do but it’s definitely getting down to the wire seeing as I have 5 kids who need a re evaluation this year and a whole bunch more I want tested to see if they qualify for special education services! I think the issue is that we expect so much from school psychologists and usually they’re doing a job that should be at least a few people. Some will go above and beyond and some are just doing the best the can!

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I think it is totally case-by-case. Like it is out of school, some people are great at their job and some are not. We've had school psychologists in the past who have positively changed students' lives and those who were awfully incompetent attending to the emotional needs of our population. Also worth noting that depending on the size of the school, the large caseload and limited resources a school psychologist might have. It is also difficult in the way that while outside of school some psychologists and clients are simply not good fits for each other in terms of specific needs, abilities, and compatibility, such flexibility and the offer of another counselor might not exist in a school setting.

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School Social Worker here….school psychologists are not required to have a ph.d. as in private practice. Psychologist primarily test. Some are great with behaviors, but I had a colleague (school psychologist- we share offices) tell me that she does work with behaviors. I reminded the person that we ALL deal with behavior so she best learn. She moved to high school.

Elementary behaviors are vastly different than secondary behaviors. Elementary age kids are learning to put a word to a feeling. They have difficulty expressing themselves clearly and, if you’re not trained to listen to the latent content you’ll focus by default on the manifest content. You’ll could very well end up hittin a wall.

Counselors deal with academics (scheduling, college apps, etc). Some are very good at fielding students personal issues, friend issues, etc- they are not trained to provide mental Heath aide.

Our education system isn’t designed to adequately address the communities mental health needs in the school. More staff is needed. Districts need to open this space for sure. I complained so much to my higher ups last year about my workload, they hired a boat load of support staff starting this yr. I’m quite sure my complaining had little to no impact but…it’s nice to see the positive change.

I only have 2 schools this year, unlike past yrs when I’d have between 4-6 schools to service. How effective can one bein 7 schools? 🤷‍♀️

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I’ve experienced good ones and ones who were not so effective.

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I think ours have been decent in recent years but our problem is we can’t keep them! I think we’ve had 4 in maybe 5 years?!? 😩 Where are y’all going?!

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They very much help❣️

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I love our psychologist. She puts up with so much shit!! She is also one of only two POC we have on staff so she kind of is the default go to for our POC kids who are in the school choice program and bused in from the inner city... the kids go to her first and I don't blame them, in a sea of white faces! (It's messed up that our staff isn't diverse but that's another issue.)She has so much on her plate and she does it all!

She actually does therapy... social skills... interfaces with DCF... she's such an integral part of our school.

I've had psychologists who didn't do jack though, so I understand your frustration.

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I have worked with a great many school psychologists. The last 2 that have been assigned to my school have been nothing but amazing; both very different in their approach to students and to the job of intervention. I can name about 3 others that have been positive help and influence. The ones that are in it for their names being in lights or who aren’t willing to get in the trenches with us, totally need to go into private practice or just get out if our district that has many students with needs

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Our psych is amazing!

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