Do you have to have a JD/LLM to be an expert in private clients (estate, trust, wealth transfer planning)?

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No, you don’t need a JD/LLM for private client work. Most of the partners you work with probably started at law firms, which is where the drafting experience comes in handy. You’d be amazed at how often the lawyers can make a stupid drafting mistake. When you review enough documents, you’ll understand what should be in them. Same goes for M and A agreements.

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I work in this particular niche group and I have noticed almost all of the partners in my group are JDs, while almost all of the partners in the Corp/partnerships groups are CPAs, and speciality groups are a mix. I like what I do but looking at the mix of people in my group makes me feel like I am missing something to become a true expert in that area since there are so many non-tax considerations made in estate and trust planning. Is it possible to gain true expertise in this area without being trained like a lawyer? Not really interested in going to law school, and definitely wouldn’t want to go to land back in PA.

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