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Do you prefer having a separate work phone from your personal? Or if the firm is paying, do you just have one phone on the firm’s dime? I’ve noticed that the majority of people just have one.

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Duel phones is my preference as well. I don’t want to be 100% available 24/7. Sometimes I get flack for not always having my work phone on me 100% of the time but it is what it is to have separation of work life balance. Also if you leave the firm it’s just easier give the work phone back and move on. It also gives you a little bit more personal privacy and security.

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At PwC the phone is purchased by the User so while you need to transfer to personal plan no need to return the phone.

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I have two because I’m not committed to PwC 😂 I just know I’m going to leave before manager so thought having two would make it easier to get rid of the work phone. I also don’t like associating my personal phone with work. When I go on vacation, I leave my work phone behind. I actually got called out by a peer about having two phones the other day. He’s like I know when people aren’t here for a long time when they have two phones hahah.

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Yeah, but if the apps (mail, gchat, etc) are on my phone, it’ll still bother me even if I set it so I don’t get notifications. I’ll still be tempted to check. This just works better for me.

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I have two. I like being able to leave work behind on occasion.

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Definitely one. I don’t understand the point of having two phones

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I am not worried at all about privacy issues. It’s what I had to do to set boundaries after 23 years of not being good at setting boundaries. Other people can do it with one phone. It’s personal preference. What triggered it for me was when Pwc went mobile only. I didn’t want to have to look at my phone while I was on vacation and see that a client or coworker called or texted.

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I have two phones because I do not want to risk exposing my personal data in the event of litigation.

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Agree. Never thought about that before.

I had one for 23 years — and made fun of people who had 2 — and then switched last year to 2. It personally helps me set and keep boundaries. Having 2 phones can be a pain at times, but I love being able to put my work phone away and only have my personal phone.

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I’ve always just had one. With current cell service costing what it does, I look at this as a tax-free part of my comp. most of the people I know with 2 phones have their personal one through their parents family plan or some other situation where they aren’t paying for it. If you have 2 because you want it to be one less thing to deal with when you quit, you’re basically saying “I’ll pay a few thousand dollars to not do 20 minutes worth of paperwork”.

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Be smart and pay the extra 60 bucks for your own personal phone.... litigation and internal firm matters.... besides why even take a chance that the firms can see what you do on your personal time? Also helps you disconnect on time off

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I always only had one then we went Mobile Only and I seriously reconsidered but I am too cheap to pay for separate service. My biggest challenge is how to ignore work on Vacation. On vacation I basically silence everything and check missed calls occasionally. The reality of it is with Hangouts and email it is rare I get a work related call unsolicited.

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I can barely keep track of everything on one phone much less two. Plus I am too cheap to pay for two phones.

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My second personal phone is on google fi. As within family additional line generally costs only $15 per month so that’s all it costs me per month. Also I don’t have to worry about what kind of messages I get or sites I visit as it is not monitored by firm. I can always use firms phone hotspot if I need to use lot of data.

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I also think part of the decision is who owns the device... I may be wrong but believe some of the firms pay for the device. That means they own it...at EY we pay for the phone, the firm reimburses up to $60 per month for the service. You can be disciplined for “inappropriate” use of firm property....up to and including termination.. Have you ever read the code of conduct? Purposely worded so damn vague that almost anything you do can be considered a violation of the code of conduct... We are all essentially employees at will...even the “Partners”.... so if the firm wants to terminate you, they will... my point is if I was being terminated I would not want it to be for some BS violation of “The Code”... termination for cause limits your legal recourse.... Imagine being terminated because you sent a text to a friend and “The Firm” found it to be in violation of the code.... Separate your personal life from your work life is what any good employment attorney would advise.

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Firm property is not gray though. At PwC we are explicitly told we own the device. At EY if you purchase the device you own it. Totally separate from reimbursement of service. I think there could be very serious legal ramifications if they were reading your texts, looking at pictures on your phone, if the phone was your property. The software that we use to access firm email and whatnot disclosed that the firm can see what apps we have and how often they are used, but cannot see anything within those apps. I think the primary purpose of the software is to allow the firm to remotely wipe your device in the event it gets lost or stolen to protect clients. I think it would be wildly inappropriate to track activity on the internet or social media apps because they could probably infer political leanings, whether you are looking for another job, whether you are about to incur medical expenses or go on paternity, etc. It’s a little conspiracy theorist, but accessing that information in this environment could probably be used to inform lay-offs, identifying people that will cost them money in the short term with parental leave and whatnot. “Which employees are running google searches on pregnancy, birth, etc.”. Idk overall - slew of legal reasons they would not access that stuff. Lawsuit waiting to happen. Even if they didn’t use it to inform any opinions, accessing it would provide ample ammunition in lawsuits.

I can barely keep track one phone! It’s not so much for saving money, but just ease and convenience. Honestly don’t have anything shady or remotely embarrassing on my phone so never been worried from that front either.

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I have two phones. My work phone is strictly for work. Why would I want the firm to be able to read all of my messages? I feel like the odd man out having two (been with the firm for 5 years), but I think everyone with just one phone is insane.

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Also, how cheap are ppl here that they can’t afford to pay for their own phone? It’s not a mortgage...

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It’s not a mortgage, but people still have mortgages. If you can’t join mom and dad’s plan a phone is pretty expensive. Not far off from a modest car payment.

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I have one phone because I’m too cheap to pay for two. Also I don’t want to carry around two and be responsible for two. I’d probably lose one

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I had two but got tired of paying such a high price for my personal phone. Now I only have one and do the 80/20 split. I pay roughly $100/yr to use my work phone for personal so it saved me about $860/yr.

As P1 mentioned, I think it is just a pain/hassle for most people to carry 2 phones. I prefer to just use one phone, and I’d turn off all work notification during my time off and put on my OOO for people to reach out through my personal contact info.

I have 2 phones. The office people get my work cell number. I switch off the office phone on Friday evening for the weekend. Also I don’t like the idea that the firm may have access to my personal data on the personal phone if I were to have one phone. I have the flexibility of terminating the office phone number if I were to leave or carry it over to use at another employer.

I have one phone and I don’t have company email or apps connected. Planning to keep this going as long as I can get away with it. After that it’s two phones. My company has the ability to wipe your phone for security reasons (I.e someone trying to hack your phone for information, or your niece/nephew entering the password wrong multiple times🤦‍♀️). I’m personally not trying to loose all my personal phone numbers and information. Just my preference 🤷‍♀️

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