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Do you tell recruiters your actual salary when they ask or go a bit higher? Feel like mine is below market

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Whatever you want. Seriously you have all the power in that conversation. If you want to say "I'd like to be making x in my next role" say that. If you want to say "I'm looking for a fair market rate for that level of responsibility" say that. If you want to say "none of your damn business get me as much money as you can" say that. Why this stresses people out I do not understand. You do not owe a recruiter anything and they don't get paid unless they get you a job. If a recruiter pushes for you to give information you don't want to give hang up on them.

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I understand if it's a random recruiter from a company that called you, but if it's a company you reached out to or one you would want a job at, it's risky to play that game. I'm not going to risk losing that opportunity over not sharing my current comp. I'm genuinely curious, what do you tell them the 4th time they say "we appreciate your interest in keeping your comp confidential, however, to move forward in the process we absolutely need to know your current comp info. It will help us drive the process more effectively." I agree with all your thoughts but once a recruiter asks a 3rd or 4th time I simply don't know what to say.

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Note the above applies to headhunters; for internal recruiters at a company you actually want to work for, you need to be a bit more polite. But the general principle still stands. Tell them you would be happy to verify your previous salary once you have an offer but you'd like to negotiate comp for the role being discussed based on the market value of the role, not your current comp.

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Don't tell them at all

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The idea that some stranger on the phone can force you to do anything is ludicrous.

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They may insist and not make an offer until you do. Don't lie because a lot of firms will ask for pay stubs

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Tell them company policy prohibits salary disclosure, but it's in the range of (whatever you are looking to be paid)

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@C1 you could not be more wrong. In my 6 years at BCG I've had half a dozen great offers and spoken to probably 50 recruiters. If they won't move forward without my comp info I literally just hang up. They called you, you have what they want, don't let them drive the process. You have all the power.

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Op and the rest, listen to BCG1. I learned the hard way. Had a dream job but they screwed me over because I was naive enough to share my current comp at that time. In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't take the offer because ACN countered with the number I had in mind. In a nutshell, do not share your current base. And if you are in NY, it's a law now.

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Thanks @bcg. It is internal, appreciate your advice.

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What do you say when they ask?

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@BCG1: it doesn't sound like you've ever been recruited. Typically they say "what is your current comp" and if you say any of those BS answers (I'm looking for X, my expectation is Y, I don't wish to share), they typically reply with "in order to move forward in the process, we need to know your current comp at X company".

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Internal, I've told them...good companies don't base it off what ur currently making, they usually use that info to track their own comp and make sure they're staying competitive in the market. I told my current employer how much I made at Accenture, and I ended up getting a 50% bump. Sooo I'd wait till you hear the actual offer, if it's based on ur current salary that's below market, then you can get into negotiations on wanting to be paid what the position is worth. If they don't, then don't take the offer. It's not worth jumping to another job just to continue being underpaid.

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Salary plus and and all bonuses...plus a few more k's

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Side note. I'm drunk. And I just proofread post 💁🏽. Y'all know what I meant tho

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I've been having a lot of conversations like this recently and when they ask I just say "It wouldn't make sense for me to make a change unless I'm making at least X."

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Good luck!

That's why people stress about it, because some recruiters will essentially force you to tell them. Whether it's legal or not.

Your current salary is of no concern is a conversation for new employment, the conversation should be your worth and the compensation relative to the new role

C1, it absolutely does work if they want you. I've had companies ask me, told them to go eat a dick (politely of course), and they called me back 2-3 days later. I told an external headhunter (verbatim) "here, let me Google it for you." You hold the power, not them.

I tell them what I make/made. And then I tell them what it would take for me to consider another job. It's a simple equation, not a game.

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