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I don’t know if cities will be ruined persay/there’s nonzero odds this just goes back to normal in 5-10 years as more people enter the job market

That being said I’m more curious if this will spike an infrastructure crisis in the USA. I think it’ll become more and more apparently how awful infra setup is across the country if people keep fleeing cities/populating non city areas without the proper infra to bear that much people load

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^ it’s awful and hilarious at the same time how so many smaller towns/areas thought Covid was gonna be their time to be the next big thing, only for their cost of living to skyrocket and locals being priced out of the very community they’ve called home

Edit: hilarious as in im baffled how almost no area seemed prepared to realize the downsides of people flocking to them

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I don’t think it will be a long term trend tbh. I think we’ll see more people going back to the office in 2023. Maybe not as much as before and definitely a more hybrid model, but I honestly don’t think there are going to be a majority of companies who allow 100% remote and there are enough people desperate for jobs that they’ll accept in-office roles.

I do think it could lead to lower rent costs in cities if there’s more of an exodus to suburbs, and that’s a good thing. More potential to gut corporate buildings for housing. That keeps a lot of the cafes or shops in business.

But on the other hand if more people want to move out of the city and to the suburbs it’ll mean extending public transit in some areas or more cars on the road in others. I think of my hometown which is a small town who struggled with the influx of people buying homes there during the pandemic. Their infrastructure wasn’t set up for that and then they saw costs drastically rising because suddenly people were complaining about not having a fancy gym or a Starbucks.

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This is the future I'm hoping for tbh

Those businesses will change to suit the residents or whatever the area becomes. From a traffic perspective I think WFH makes things more efficient. You don’t have everybody travelling at 8am and 5pm causing traffic jams.

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There's a lot of upsides to remote work - less traffic, better for the environment, less pollution, more time with family etc. And to be honest some of those office buildings would be put to better use if turned into housing, which is something cities need, especially affordable housing. Given these changes, you are looking at a city with better air, less congestion, more housing, and people with more time to spend with their families and friends. That sounds better to me. Does it really make sense to force people to go back to work in person at yet another office building they don't want to be in, to "rescue downtown businesses"? Of course not. As for the downtown area businesses that are worried, a business' job is to be a business. If it can't adapt to a changing market it will inevitably fail. We all have to adapt to changes, people, companies, etc. - no one and nothing is exempt. That's just the way life is.

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This was a really interesting read. I find it so fascinating that people are just straight up refusing to go into work. Sounds like a good way to be out a job if you ask me.

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The market won’t be hot forever.

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Honestly, I'll be happy for a move away from the cities. I don't need the commute, the pollution, or the added cost attached to everything.

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In the UK there are already a lot of city-escapees regretting the move to the country. There’s no speedy coffee, deliver-to-door services, nightlife or good cellphone signal.

There will always be companies that base themselves out of the city. BUT if everyone is remote full time, there be more of an argument to near-shore / off-shore their Human Resources to places with lower wage costs.

I think the realisation that a commute is not necessary every day and that extra sleep / gym need to stay. So I imagine most companies know hybrid working needs to be accommodated.

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When I lived in the financial district skyscraper forest, everything was dead after dark. It wasn't a bustling city vibe, it was a place people left at 5pm. Mixed-use areas have more going on.

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