Do you use the “he/him” “she/her” in your email signature?

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So I get that the idea is to create an environment where if the most obvious cis-gender folks are doing it, then it normalizes it for trans folks, but I think an unintended result is that it’s most beneficial for people with ambiguous or “foreign” names that aren’t as quickly associated with a specific gender.

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No, but not because I don’t believe it has value. Picking pronouns for myself makes me feel squidgy on the inside, and I don’t want to examine that feeling too closely.

A lot of my colleagues do it, particularly the younger ones.

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@A13, this is hard to answer. I have complicated feelings about my own gender identity. It’s not a dysphoric feeling, but I don’t have strong attachment to my gender and don’t like thinking about myself in gendered terms. Thinking about it too hard makes me feel like I’ve touched something gross. So, I prefer not to self-identify my pronouns; I really don’t care how people refer to me as long as I don’t have to think about how I’d refer to myself.

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No

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Yes, I work with someone who is trans and I want to support them.

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No, it’s discriminatory against people who don’t identify as human

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Well, not all humans identify as humans. So we’re excluding those people. We should also be adding the gender terms AND “living human” or something so we can signal to those who may choose to identify as some other life form that’s it’s ok to do so and we are not excluding them.

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Some colleagues do. Should I? I’m not trans, but is the idea to create an atmosphere of acceptance?

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Right, cause if the only people who do it are those who don't identify as their gender assigned at birth, then to include it is basically more of a big deal.

And if people don't get to include it, they're now subject to being misgendered and experiencing other discomfort.

If everyone does it, it can minimize those discomforts and make it less of a statement to include it.

Yep, work in big law in NYC. Want to normalize this.

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No but plenty of my colleagues do.

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No, and I haven't noticed it in others' emails. But I am in the Midwest, where I think social change comes a bit more slowly than on the coasts.

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Southeastern city. No one in my company does it, and I don’t either. I haven’t seen many in this area who do? Not against, just not common here

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One other question - firms seem to be doing this to show how progressive they are and how accepting they are of non-binary folks, but what do you think the general reaction would be to people that want to go by “ze/zim”

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I don’t use the terms, but I would prefer these to them in the singular. It is confusing and I don’t want to hear the liberal BS about how it isn’t. At least ze/zim is still singular but allows the person using it to escape the him/her pronouns.

I don't, but my firm rolled out this option for official email signatures in the last year or so (Midwest, regional firm)

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No, if you haven’t figured out my very obvious gender, that’s on you. I’m not trans so I don’t feel the need to help adults to identify my gender.

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AA1 - me too. I have a psych degree and thought I wanted to be a therapist. Would’ve been terrible for all involved.

No. I would love to be called a him tho, can I be paid like a man as well?

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No . I see it on Twitter bios but never email signatures.

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Are there any people that go by a mixture of pronouns, like “she/him/theirs”?

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the people i know who use multiple pronouns are nonbinary or genderfluid. all of them also are generally fine with any of the pronouns they list. so if they say “she/him” they’re probably fine with she/hers or he/him.

i don’t know any actual, real people who demand a difference in gendered pronouns between singular and possessive pronouns, for example.

Yes bc people often use my name with Mr. but I am a female!

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this is an under appreciated reason why cis people might want to. some of us aren’t anglo people with “masculine” or “feminine” coded names! nobody ever knows what pronouns to use with me based on email only

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Yep, I changed it as soon as we got the option. Inclusion is important!

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Yes.

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