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Does anyone know someone who was placed on a pip who then found a way to get on medical leave so could apply to jobs while still employed? (Idea being that you greatly extend your opportunity to look for jobs while still being able to say you’re at current firm. Example: Person gets 1 month pip, gets medical leave, then is able to look for new jobs for many months rather than 1 month. If you don’t know anyone, any opinions on how this could work?

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Damn this is some horrible karma to put out into the universe. Medical leave isn’t something you should ever wish to use as a scapegoat for your underperformance. You sure a career anywhere in professional services is for you?

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A1 appears to be a winner of Moral Character and Integrity award! Everyone say congrats!

Your lack of integrity is stunning.

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Can’t actually for reasons I can’t get into. It’s a smart idea though.

See it all the time, sometimes the stress and experience is so daunting that people qualify for a leave. They use the time to bridge the gap to improve performance or find a new job. Sometimes the break allows folks to refocus and address deficiencies but the PIP picks up where you were when you left for the most part. Good luck🦋

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To qualify for that leave with federal protections you need to have been employed at the firm for a year or more though, I’ll be just shy at the end of the PIP :-/. Thanks for the advice though.

If you do this, make sure you’re ready to leave your firm for good - no boomerang. I had someone on my team do something similar but spent his ‘medical leave’ in Europe with his buddies. It broke whatever bridges and goodwill there was between us and it was a messy exit with HR.

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I think if someone’s on a PIP, there’s no boomerang regardless. Thanks for the post though.

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And yet... one of my reports was on a PIP. For over a year it was every excuse under the sun about why work was done incorrectly (some medical reasons, some not). Put accommodations in place, and still no change. After they are put on the PIP, like only a few days before it expired, suddenly medical LOA occurs.

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Think about this for 6 months because you have no idea what student loan MBA can really do to your budget/savings plan/life until you’re in it

I don’t understand the logic...is there a 1 month time limit with being on PIP? You can be on a PIP for 4-6+ months, plenty of time to apply for other jobs. Don’t think going extreme on medical leave is needed

Sometimes people get put on extremely short PIPs

You can claim you have a substance abuse problem. You can also just take FMLA leave for 12 weeks, but I'd make sure your doctor is comfortable with writing a note stating you need this time off for X.

Substance abuse problem I don’t believe you have any protections unless you’ve been at the firm for at least a year (which is when FMLA kicks in). In this case, person involved only has been at firm for just shy of a year.

Seems like an unrealistic plan. Like how are you gonna get sick or have a baby to go on paid leave? Better to just quit, start an LLC and agree to do some work for dirt cheap for a client so that you can have an immediate reference for right after you quit.

I didnt mean an actual personal reference, just a company that you can put on your resume to show you contracted for them right after you were laid off so that you have no work gap.

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