Does the VP of HR have hiring power over the creative recruiter?

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Why did she reject you? Is it because she didn’t like your book, or because she showed it around, and the ECDs or CDs weren’t digging it? Because if it’s the latter going around her isn’t going to help.

And even if it’s the former, the recruiter is going to have to be involved in the process - it’s basically her job, and the VP isn’t going to be willing or able to cut her out of the process just to accommodate you.

So you have to ask yourself if you’re going to make that situation more uncomfortable by going at it this way.

But it’s been 2 years, and you should have better stuff in your book, so I don’t see why she wouldn’t give it another look. Honestly though, might be time to let it go and look elsewhere.

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I don’t think you’re gonna outflank the recruiter. Typically they look through sites, pass the good ones to CDs, and then if it’s a match, you get a call. So even if you hypothetically did go to this VP, it still has to go through the CDs.

And really the VP would probably pass you to the recruiter anyway, to avoid stepping on toes.

As ACD 1 said, it’s been 2 years, try again with your updated book.

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Thanks for the advice, everyone! I appreciate it. I was fresh out of college (undergrad) when I reached out, but I guess still feel awkward? I have a feeling she looked at my book and didn’t even pass it on, considering I didn’t know then what I know now. Try again, I shall.

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Any connection you have at any agency will stay out of it if you aren't right for the role and will back you loudly if you are the best choice. Period.
I have very close friends I won't back if they aren't the right person for an open role. It's awkward.

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Maybe in an org chart but Creative Recruiters answer to the needs of the Creative department within the framework of the overall organizational needs.

Basically if I have a good connection with the VP of HR at an agency, but I was rejected by their creative recruiter 2 years ago (and I’ve heard she’s a regular ghoster) - should I try my in through the HR woman?

Typically the VP trusts the recruiter to do their job and wouldn’t take over and serve as a recruiter advocate directly with a hiring manager. If the recruiter ghosted you, it’s likely that the CD or hiring manager wasn’t interested and they didn’t like your work enough to want to keep a strong relationship. Never acceptable, but obviously it happens

Good luck!! Let us know what happens.

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