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Don’t know why, but I am not feeling afraid of getting laid off. And also I don’t feel like pushing to get another job in case that happens. I am fed up with this visa nonsense, the corporate slavery they have in name of H1B. And also this whole world in turmoil due to covid has left me thinking what better i could do to add value to the society. Adding to the agony of American dream is the civil unrest in US, trump again for 4 years, more guns, absurdity of USCIS etc.

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I’ll be honest, guys. I LOVED my life in India even though I was earning only 1/3rd of what I make now. There’s so much more to life that being in a country where you have to be treated like a second class citizen and be at the mercy of an employer and immigration system that doesn’t give a sh** about you and living in a constant state of anxiety and impermanence. I’ll be happy to go back to India (saying this after 12 years of being here and enjoying a pretty comfy life in the US) I own a home here, my kid is a US citizen, I have great friends here too and like my job. But somehow my heart hasn’t left India in all these years

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M4 so true. I relate to you so much but I’m just starting my life here. Very difficult balance to maintain

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This is a really nice thread. It was nice to know that there are so many others like me who share my frustration and struggles with the visa process. I have been trying to change jobs for a while now because I hate consulting. But obviously visa sponsorship is a huge hurdle to get through for getting even a new job here.

And yet, despite all the struggles..I am not ready to go back to India. My native country. Not yet. As a closeted gay man, I moved to the US years ago for a more dignified, independent life where I could be just myself without being judged, without my family or friends asking me to get married to a woman. I know a lot has improved in India for the LGBT community, people are a lot more open minded now. But most of my friends, my LGBT family live here in the US. I don’t think I have any friends left in India anymore, all I have left are acquaintances. I know this may sound selfish but despite all the struggles and pain, unfortunately this is what I call my home now.

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Completely get where you are coming from!!! Best of luck, hope you find a home that deserves you!!

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Management consultant, just want to let you know that I’m with you and I’m feeling you. I’m in the same situation and lot of times feel the same way. Just keep smiling, do whatever you can and leave the rest to destiny. Trying to control this situation will only make it worse!

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So true mate, so true!

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Totally with ya. Two years ago I really wanted to do my best in getting GC. Figured out that that I can always make my life back home or anywhere else.

Will I make the same amount of money? Of course not. But it’s been easier to breath once I understood that h1b or gc is no longer my end goal.

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All who asked me a question: I moved in 2020.

No points required as I applied to EY like an external member and got selected. It's a bit odd the internal rotation didn't work.

Was it hard ? The thought was so so hard, went through the decision for more than a year in my mind. Super tough for family as well. The move and action, not much. More like moving homes with the same state. It's the mental state that took me a while to accept.

PM me for more questions.

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Such a refreshing post. Absolutely OP - I think many h1bs actually don’t have an end goal. They are just here because of a path set by people before them (including me). When you start questioning why you are here and even money isn’t a good enough reason - time to rethink why.

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This is a wonderful thread. Thanks OP for bringing this one up. I’m sure a lot of us feel just the same. Personally I’m so glad and relieved to hear these many voices echoing the same, bc a lot of days I feel like I’m alone in this battle and no one would understand what I’m going through. Truly, this past year has been unimaginably difficult dealing with the dilemma of wanting to push thru for GC at the expense of my well-being, mental health, and pursuing other opportunities outside of my tied-up “specialty” profession...I strongly believe 2020 is a huge transition that would lead to something better.

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So with you. Lost my job beginning of March due to Covid and applied so many positions but nothing materialized yet. Every morning I log in and apply and talk to recruiters but that’s it. At this point I am like - fuck USA and I am better off in Aus where I can have my freedom. Still looking for job - will work till I lay out the plan of moving there with my husband. I am at a point where if nothing materialize in few months I would be ok rather than getting worked up. My goals definitely shifted to well being and other imp things.

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Aah PR not birth country.. You're in the same boat as the rest of us. Effin painful

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Same situation, H1B feels like you have given over your life to the masters. Moment they cut the chord your life pretty much ends in the USA. Also in the similar boat as you, feel the need of doing some real work (solving root problems back in India - Education, farming, job creation)! To be honest, I too don't feel scared any longer, if the jobs gone, it's gone .. I will be better used for my own country back home!

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SC1 not sure if you are serious or meant for sarcasm. Since when did we start to welcome happy thoughts only on fishbowl? But OP I feel the exact same way, very frustrated with where things stand, somewhat fed up with my job but can’t leave, while all these years of waiting had become such a giant sunk cost that’s hard to just dump. If I get laid off I might be relieved because at least that helped me avoid having to chose

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I feel you D2. I was recently laid off and I swear that for the longest time I’ve been sort of hoping it would happen that one day this decision is made for me so I don’t have to choose. Now that it did, I feel so relieved. I no longer hold on to the idea that h1b/GC is the biggest next goal in life, but was rather offered the opportunity to re-evaluate what I truly want to create value for others and the world.

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Thank you all who supported and echoed my feelings. I do believe that 2020 would be the year of reckoning/awakening for us and we will come out stronger on the other side.

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“The corporate slavery they have in the name of H1B” - a Fishbowl Legend!

You’re not alone OP! Stay strong. Us immigrants sometime attach all of our life, future career prospects, our support to our families, etc. to the H1B > GC prospects, adding too much (not needed) pressure on our lives & metal health. It’s not worth it!

You’re doing good here, you’ll do great anywhere else!

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Every time I go for visa interview or extension, I just think that they better reject me to end this cycle..I am not scared of going out of country - travelled 20 times in last 10 years..changed 7 jobs and don’t give a damn to uscis or trump or the rules..if I had to go to India, I am happy and if I get to stay back, I am happy..
Remember it is up to you to be happy and content, no external situation except family emergency should affect your happiness ever..

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I got laid off and in the same boat @op. I am waiting for the elections to get over and will continue if there is a clarity of GC. By no means, I will be able to sustain another four years with all this BS. I never thought this is how the American experience might end. Still, if the country needs only diversity to appease evangelical groups, I would go back home and make something of myself.

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Some natives would be happy to see such posts, and they should be.
But they would always remember that people on H1B gave them the real taste of competition and with such positive thoughts that OP posted and others have second, wherever we go we will shine.

Cheers!!

And the competition part applies to everyone one of us, you just have to get better at what you do. Visa constraints/policy updates they are all temporary

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I was really happy in India though I earned much much less than here. For the last 2 years I've been depressed in the US. Ifi get laid off, and ultimately return to India, I'll take some days off and travel to North/North East and then start my job search. Only worry is the work culture and the feeling of being perceived as a loser by others back home!

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I concur the thoughts OP. When I came here 15 years back, the wait time was 2-3 years. By the time my GC was filed it was 2011 and now that seems to be a distant dream. Kids born in India in High school/ College and at the verge of aging out. I know there are naysayers, but one piece of advice, people with young’s kids should seriously think abt relocating to a place where you have a certain future

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exactly how i felt when i left in 2018 after living in the US for 9 years. been back to my home country and believe it or not, i still feel every single day is a holiday for me because i am enjoying it so much. no paperwork bullshit and stupid anxiety over an h1b approval

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How’s EY US vs EY India?

Same here. If unfortunately l get laid, I’ll just ‘go back to where I’m from’.

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Well, getting laid off is still nothing to be proud of. But given the current situation, it does has its pros.

Agree fully. First you don't get the jobs you desire specially with an MBA degree. Then keep waiting to get H1B first and even after that live in uncertainty. The only reason I am not willing to go back to India right now is because of COVID-19 there are lesser opportunities but would definitely want to move back there as soon as possible in next one year.

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I echo the sentiment, not the best place to be when you’re slaving away and helping the economy, yet don’t feel like you belong. That said, I’ve been in the US long enough to feel like I may actually not belong back home either. The political situation and life in general isn’t terribly great back in the motherland either (India for me).

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